Pat Robertson: U.S. should assassinate Venezuela's Chavez - Page 3

AKA_Monet · #31 08-24-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by KSigkid
The sad thing is, I'm not surprised by any of this.

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Originally posted by ktsnake
Pat Robertson says something stupid and embarassing...

Why is this even news? I thought news usually covered something that wasn't an every day occurance?

What the hell do I know...

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Originally posted by Rudey
What are people upset about specifically?

Is it regarding assassination of a dictator as opposed to going to war?

Is it believing in that type of punishment as a Christian leader?

-Rudey

Pat Robertson did run for president of the United States once or twice in the 1980's and 1990's...

To me, I would think that as a Christian, we would stay away from an all out call to assassinate somebody--or at least have that publicized on any media outlet for the world to see, although many are probably thinking the same thing.

But who knows where folks in power that get their spiritual advice...

I guess the worse vice is advice...

Rudey · #32 08-25-2005, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by AKA_Monet
To me, I would think that as a Christian, we would stay away from an all out call to assassinate somebody--or at least have that publicized on any media outlet for the world to see, although many are probably thinking the same thing.

History books are filled with religious leaders that promoted violence or murder.

-Rudey

Lindz928 · #33 08-25-2005, 01:00 PM

Ok, first he was actually denying that he even said this. Not generally the best course of action for something you said ON TELEVISION!

Now apparently he is apologizing.

Jill1228 · #34 08-25-2005, 01:20 PM

What he said! And I am ashamed to say that his home base (Virginia Beach) is in the city where I grew up. He is such a schmuck!

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Pat Robertson is a MORON!

cashmoney · #35 08-25-2005, 01:31 PM

I can't stand Chavez. He's a piss poor leader and if you talk to Venezuelans that arent really poor, they hate him too. Most of his countrymen can't stand him and he was basically already outsted from power but didnt leave. He held democratic elections but the election was rigg'd. He's corrupt. He can't stand the U.S. and he idolizes Castro. He's a communist who hasnt proclaimed it outright because he's scared there'll be a coup. Initially he didnt support CAFTA because it was devised by the US even though it helps his country while hurting ours (thats the only reason why he agreed on it). For the past 5 1/2 years I've been hearing about this guy from Venezeulans and the horrible things he does in his country. The guy thinks a Capitalist society ruins a culture

He's heavily against prostitution but has a liberal drug policy regarding cocaine manufactoring, that indicates he's the country's biggest drug dealer.

Something needs to be done. If you ask me putting a bullet in his head isn't a bad idea. Its cheaper and less costly in American lives than invading Venezeula. I really can't stand Pat Robertson but he did have a good idea. I think he should have not said anything on national TV, though.

Now I'm gonna wait to get hit by this stupid hurricane.

Lindz928 · #36 08-25-2005, 01:40 PM

Cashmoney, all the stuff you said is the first information I've read about this guy. Thanks for the information! It's true, that might be the best course of action, and I think alot of people on here will probably agree with you.

Whatever is right for the country, I think Roberston should leave it up to the government.

cashmoney · #37 08-25-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Lindz928
Cashmoney, all the stuff you said is the first information I've read about this guy. Thanks for the information! It's true, that might be the best course of action, and I think alot of people on here will probably agree with you.

Whatever is right for the country, I think Roberston should leave it up to the government.

I think people are quick to jump on the hating bandwagon in any situation. Most don't realize that the smart thing to do is sit back and look at everything from both ends and then make a response. I'll bet that over 1/2 the people on this board didnt even know who Chavez was until Pat Robertson said something and most of the people here still know little to nothing about the guy. In my opinion he's the Kim Jong Ill of South America. I know plenty of Venezeulans who went to college with me and are still in school continuing their education as long as possible just so they can stay here until Chavez isn't in power anymore.

Now if I could somehow find a way to teleport myself to Austin, away from this hurricane, I'd give you some personal lectures on Chavez over some college station beers.

Lindz928 · #38 08-25-2005, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by cashmoney

Now if I could somehow find a way to teleport myself to Austin, away from this hurricane, I'd give you some personal lectures on Chavez over some college station beers.

Haha, that would be awesome!

ADqtPiMel · #39 08-25-2005, 03:55 PM

I think my biggest issue with Robertson's statement is the anti-American ammunition it provides to Venezeulans. I also found it interesting that our government is staying relatively quiet about it...I think the harshest comment I've heard towards Robertson was from the State Department, which said his comments were "inappropriate."

If the situation was reversed, and a prominent Venezeulan religious leader was calling for the assassination of George W. Bush, and the Venezeulan government was pretty much quiet on the issue, I think people might feel a little differently about it.

ADqtPiMel · #40 08-25-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by Lindz928
Cashmoney, all the stuff you said is the first information I've read about this guy. Thanks for the information! It's true, that might be the best course of action, and I think alot of people on here will probably agree with you.

Honestly curious about your point of view...

Earlier, you said that Robertson wasn't behaving in a Christian manner because he was advocating an assassination.

Do you think that since Chavez is a corrupt leader, that makes the assassination ok?

cashmoney · #41 08-25-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by ADqtPiMel
Do you think that since Chavez is a corrupt leader, that makes the assassination ok?

*crash*

Yes, it does in this case. This is corruption on a different level than the corruption within the elite who run our country. U.S. Presidents and Senators who do each other political favors can hardly be considered on the same level as Hugo Chavez and the stunts he's pulled. He isnt exactly on the Pinochet level just yet, but he will be if he keeps going. I guess if we wanted to try and not be the "I don't give a fuck what everyone else says" country, we could always kidnapp him like we did Noriega from Panama and put him in jail for drug trafficking. The problem with kidnapping is that the world would know its us in whichcase assassination would probably be the better option. We already have Saddam Hussein in jail. I could just see the newspapers in France if we put Chavez in jail, too...... "Chirac's approval rating soars after opposing the U.S. nabbing of yet another world leader."

I say we let the CIA do its job.

Honeykiss1974 · #42 08-25-2005, 04:33 PM

I just think its funny that people are upset at what Pat said when at this very moment our government is probably trying to do that very thing (or making it convienent for it to happen). LOL

And for those who aren't avid watchers of the 700 Club, Pat said the very same thing about Sadaam Hussein (he should have been assassinated instead of using military force to oust him) so ask yourself why didn't we hear about that one?

HMMMM.......

cashmoney · #43 08-25-2005, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
I just think its funny that people are upset at what Pat said when at this very moment our government is probably trying to do that very thing (or making it convienent for it to happen). LOL

And for those who aren't avid watchers of the 700 Club, Pat said the very same thing about Sadaam Hussein (he should have been assassinated instead of using military force to oust him) so ask yourself why didn't we hear about that one?

HMMMM.......

You really need to stop watching the 700 Club as your source of news. You're starting to refer to him ( calling him "Pat") as if you're on a first name basis with him.

But to answer your question.....

We didnt hear about it on Saddam for several reasons. We had already been to war with him and the country knew him as an agressor for invading Kuwait. Chavez has not taken any sort of military against a sovereign state, although he has murdered 10s of 1000s of native indians in his country using military force. The people are so distracted about the Genocide in Africa they don't even know what goes on in South America. Saddam Hussein was trying to develop nuclear weapons at one time. Chavez hasn't. Saddam Hussein gassed his own people, Iraqis. While Chavez has murdered Indians, he has not killed people considered to be Venezeulan (he just hasnt been directly linked, if you want the honest truth). Saddam Hussein has vowed, in the past, to do everything possible to destroy America. Hugo Chavez has never advocated war on America or made any such vow to mine or the world's knowledge. He has, however, made comments in refference to destroying our economy to the best of his ability should we bulldog him. Chavez is Anti-American, no doubt....but as of yet he hasn't barred Americans from coming into the country like Saddam Hussein did. Hussein and Chavez are on two different levels, you cannot expect the public of this country to feel the same on both figures.

Cash

Lindz928 · #44 08-25-2005, 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by ADqtPiMel
Honestly curious about your point of view...

Earlier, you said that Robertson wasn't behaving in a Christian manner because he was advocating an assassination.

Do you think that since Chavez is a corrupt leader, that makes the assassination ok?

My opinion as stated has nothing to do with a political leader, corrupt or otherwise. My statement was that it does not seem very Christian to me to be calling for the assasination of anyone. Doesn't mean it's not the best course of action. I just don't find it Christian of him to make public statements about such things.

I also don't find it very Christian of him to be passing judgement as he is. Yes, we all do it from time to time, and in this case he could possibly be right, but as a leader I would think that he would try to teach the lesson that judgement is not for man, but for God.

But that will just get us into the whole idea of "religious leaders" such as him and organized religion as a whole, and I don't see a need for it to go in that direction.

cashmoney · #45 08-25-2005, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by Lindz928
But that will just get us into the whole idea of "religious leaders" such as him and organized religion as a whole, and I don't see a need for it to go in that direction.

Hahahah! That made me laugh. I'm kind of pissed that I bought 3 extra propane tanks for the grill in case this storm knocks out power for awhile. We're having a hurricane party tonight and I bought steaks and kegs. My girl was a little pissed.