Ban Public Smoking

[btb87]

Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
I may be wrong about this, but I think that in Florida, smoking is only banned in establishments that serve food. So you can still smoke in nightclubs as long as a certain percentage of their revenue doesn't come from food service. So like, you can smoke at a club down in Ybor, but you can't at Hooters.

Soror, you are correct.

"The ban on workplace smoking does not apply to private residences (unless they are providing commercial child care), retail tobacco shops, designated smoking rooms at motels and hotels, and stand alone bars (which serve only "customary bar snacks" and generate no more than 10% of gross revenue from food sales). Also exempted are membership association facilities, such as VFW halls, U.S. Customs lounges at international airports, outdoor patio sections of restaurants, smoking cessation programs, and medical or scientific research."

[Jill1228]

I am an ex-smoker in a family of smokers (mom, dad and sister still smoke). Mr. 1228 is a non smoker. I do not allow smoking in my house (hmmm, maybe that is why my family never comes to visit me).

I am cool with not smoking in restaurants, but I dunno about bars.

I will never forget the shock being in NC with my old college roommate and she fired up a Marlboro in a dept store...and it was totally legal I wasn't cool with that.

I am fine with not allowing smoking in malls, stores and some parts of restaurants, but I dunno about bars.

Smoking will never be outlawed in casinos though

Originally posted by ms_gwyn
I can see both sides of the issue (I am a smoker) but I never smoked in restaurants (yuck!), I feel choked when people were smoking and I was eating.

I never smoke around people who are not smokers (most of my friends)

I also understand the arugement of public vs. private.

I will go with the indifferent crowd....

[MaMaBuddha]

although i don't smoke cigarettes. i work in several different night clubs and restaurants at night and i have seen a huge difference. Restaurants are not packed like they use to be. Wait staff has been laid off.

In the clubs, a cigarette and alcohol almost go hand and hand. Working as a bouncer, i spent alot of time chasing down people that step outside to take a cigaerette break and don't come back to pay the bill. It's crazy.

i hate when the smoke gets in my hair. But i hate when my boss calls me and tells me he does not need me at night because sales are down.

New York has become some what of a police state. no smoking in clubs and restaurants, no open containers on the street, they try to pull that no smoking in yoru car. i think that is too much.

[Boom_Quack13]

Yay all the way!!!!!!!!!!

I say if ya wanna smoke, close up in an unventilated roomand do it to yourself. I like my air clean.

[Boom_Quack13]

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
As a smoker, and living in a city that has already banned public smoking. I can honestly say that I am indifferent.

I don't mind going outside to smoke...even in the freezing cold. I never smoke indoors at home. The only place I would smoke inside is at another smokers place and only with their permission.

I think I'm okay with this is because I never used to be a smoker. I only started when I went to university. So, I know how non-smokers feel and I try my best not to offend them.

Since you try your best not to offend us, which I appreciate, could you and other smokers please not huddle around the entrance of building with the smoke? I hate going into a building and havng to pass a cloud of smoke. Smoking somewhere out in the open seems like it allows more ventilation. Thanks.

[Boom_Quack13]

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
I agree with this.

One of the pubs on my old campus became smoke free. As soon as that happened the patronage went waaaaaaaay down. It used to be that this pub was always packed that if you weren't there at 5pm, then you either weren't getting in or you would be waiting for a few hours to get in. Now, they have to have all ages nights and those of age HAVE to wear a wrist band to be served because no one is going to this pub anymore.
Also, because of the no smoking ban, another bar was turned into a coffee house, because no one was going there anymore.

The school voted for this, but now no one is using the bars. This just shows that the vast majority of patrons at these bars were smokers.

But, if the ban is on all pubs/clubc/bars, then there is no choice and the businesses will still have a clientele.

[Boom_Quack13]

Originally posted by DELTABRAT
In some cities in Cali smokers can't smoke within certain distances of buildings either. It's not enough to got RIGHT outsied the door to smoke because smoke travels inside windows, etc.

The cigarette tax and subsequent ban on smoking brought Cali from like 44th in the Nation in poor health to number 22.

I say VOTE YES!!!

Yahoo for Cali!!!!

[WenD08]

i'm waiting for Cincy/OH to join Cali and NYC w/a real smoking ban. going out to eat and sitting in a "smoke-free" section means nothing when you're placed near a smoking section there is a company in MN that wants it's employees to be completely smoke-free, at work, home, everywhere. i won't go that far but i would like to like to go to a casino, for exmple, at some point. right now, the ones i've been to were hazardous

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by DELTABRAT
In some cities in Cali smokers can't smoke within certain distances of buildings either. It's not enough to got RIGHT outsied the door to smoke because smoke travels inside windows, etc.

The cigarette tax and subsequent ban on smoking brought Cali from like 44th in the Nation in poor health to number 22.

I say VOTE YES!!!

It's like that here too. Starting january 1st, my school now demands that smokers have to stand 9 meters (about 27 feet) away from all entrances to the buldings, except those that have been designated smoking areas.
Right now the only smoking area (that I have found) is right outside the cafeteria.

Cigarette prices also just went up in Ontario.

But as a smoker, I really am indifferent as long as there is a spot for me to smoke. The place were I used to work offered a patio that was fenced in for all the smokers.
The only thing that pisses me off is when non-smokers hang out in the designated smoking area and complain that people are smoking (and yes I have heard people do this).

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by Boom_Quack13
But, if the ban is on all pubs/clubc/bars, then there is no choice and the businesses will still have a clientele.

Restaurants have not suffered as much here, but some of the bars definitly have. The campus pub I mentioned did suffer. Even when the opened it up to all ages, the place was still dead, and they lost money on alcohol sales because most of the patrons in there were of course the ones who couldn't drink. The only bars that do really well are the ones that offer a designated smoking area. A few of the bars in Guelph have disappeared because of the no-smoking ban. It really does hurt some businesses.

[sunflower02]

I'm glad Florida banned smoking in restaurants; all of that secondhand smoke stuff had me really concerned.

[Boom_Quack13]

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
Restaurants have not suffered as much here, but some of the bars definitly have. The campus pub I mentioned did suffer. Even when the opened it up to all ages, the place was still dead, and they lost money on alcohol sales because most of the patrons in there were of course the ones who couldn't drink. The only bars that do really well are the ones that offer a designated smoking area. A few of the bars in Guelph have disappeared because of the no-smoking ban. It really does hurt some businesses.

I think you missed what I was saying. I said that if smoking was banned in all of the establishments that nobody would lose money. They would have no options. The places that you mentioned lost money, because smokers opted to go where they could smoke.

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by Boom_Quack13
I think you missed what I was saying. I said that if smoking was banned in all of the establishments that nobody would lose money. They would have no options. The places that you mentioned lost money, because smokers opted to go where they could smoke.

I guess I am misunderstanding you, because smoking is banned inside all establishments here. The ones losing business are the ones that don't have a designated smoking area outside. Those are usually the smaller bars and restaurants. Ones without patios, or a section of their property blocked off, or a bar that severly restricts the movement of those wanting to have a smoke.

[CrimsonTide4]

What do you all think of this?

Now Hiring NON SMOKERS ONLY

Article mentions how smokers are more costly for insurance and some companies might want to hire only non smokers in the future.

[Proverbs31]

I find it hard to believe that something like this would be legal.