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Old 10-13-2004, 04:08 PM
Rudey Rudey is offline
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I've said this before, and I'll say it again.

If people marry for benefits, then I guess they get divorced because they hate money and all those good things.

The reasons for marriage are numerous: ceremonial, love, religious, legal binding of estates, family, etc. and it is often a combination of one or more. These benefits people talk about are the least likely of reasons for marriage.

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Old 10-13-2004, 04:49 PM
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The reasons for marriage are numerous: ceremonial, love, religious, legal binding of estates, family, etc. and it is often a combination of one or more. These benefits people talk about are the least likely of reasons for marriage.

I agree with this.

It would be really sad if people only married because of tax benefits.
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Old 10-13-2004, 07:01 PM
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My parents generally won't attend weddings. If they're good friends of the family, they'll attend the ceremony as long as it's in a church, but will never attend the reception. They believe that weddings are just an excuse for people to flaunt their social status.
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Old 10-13-2004, 07:48 PM
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They believe that weddings are just an excuse for people to flaunt their social status.
Or, what's becoming common now, how much credit they have.

I've been to a few weddings where you know that the couple (and both sets of parents!) are going into insane amounts of debt--and what for? At the end of the day, the couple will be married regardless of how much they spend on the wedding.

It disgusts me when people go beyond their means just to impress other people. If money were an issue, I'd rather have 10 people at my wedding, having a nice time than 200 people fighting over the last mozzarella stick because I wanted to have my wedding in an "impressive" location, and couldn't pay for my guests to have more than one of each hors d'oeurve.
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Old 10-19-2004, 12:05 AM
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I am one of these people that if you want to get married then get married. If you don't want to get married, then, don't get married. I honestly don't think those people who don't get married are really missing out on a life well spent/lived/whatever. Maybe these single-for-life-people are much happier not being married. I hate it when people try to make people feel bad for not ever getting married or getting married again. I just say let people live.
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Old 10-19-2004, 01:30 AM
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I am one of these people that if you want to get married then get married. If you don't want to get married, then, don't get married. I honestly don't think those people who don't get married are really missing out on a life well spent/lived/whatever. Maybe these single-for-life-people are much happier not being married. I hate it when people try to make people feel bad for not ever getting married or getting married again. I just say let people live.
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Old 10-19-2004, 10:36 AM
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I think it works both ways...I know with us we both have large families, and because they live in different states, our wedding may be the ONLY opportunity our families get to meet each other. Seeing as we come from large, close-knit families, it adds to our guest list.

We wanted our family to be a nice, formal event where people would have a lot of fun, something that would be worth the travel (since we're getting married in Boston).

Now, it won't be ridiculous as far as price or anything else; but it will be a decent size, and will cost some money. Now, it's important for us to have all that family there (as well as a few friends) and for it to be a NICE wedding, both to celebrate our wedding and to give people a good time.

I get the point that some weddings are to the point of ridiculousness...but you also have to take these things on a case by case basis.
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Old 10-19-2004, 11:28 AM
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Thanks ya'll! I just feel if you're happier married, then, be married. If not happier married, then, don't be married. LOL
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Old 10-19-2004, 05:35 PM
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The original question

Why is it important for 2 individuals to be married in the "state" (or under the government)???

This goes back to property rights from the British Empire. When our "founding fathers" declared their independence from the Empire, they used some of the property rights used by the King in the instances of marriage. Marriage was seen as a unionization of monetary gain. At that time, only a monarchical (sp?) recognized union was legally binding... And that went along with all the war treaties made between England and France and other European Countries... What that means is that only those having a "title" could be "seen" legally married for the mere purpose of property rights... When the United States was formed, then the war relenquished all property obtained by marriage treaties between England, France, etc... Then some European countries started to land grab when the war concluded a bit... But no longer did marriage treaties between the continents were able to be maintained...

Remember long ago, women were beheaded if they did not procreate male children... But then again, a man could marry and have many wives...

What we are seeing nowadays is the archaic understanding of marriage imposed on us. Under statesmanship, it may have minimal at best, legal understandings that were once well defined and clearly demarcated...

As far as to why folks marry now? Most folks do it for their own reasons... There is NO legal requirement to be married other than for monetary gain and even then, there may not be a good reason. So it all boils down to how one person can commit to another for a period of time for whatever reason...
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Old 11-30-2004, 07:48 PM
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Re: The purpose of Marriage?

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but boy if I hear one more time that "God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve", I don't know what I'll do!!!
Of course God created Adam and Eve, but he also created Steve and John and Mary and Dick and Jane. to say otherwise is foolish.
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Old 12-01-2004, 01:38 AM
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I want to get married. But I dunno if I'll ever find someone who can put up with me. My friends all say I'll be the first one married and pregnant tho.
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Old 12-01-2004, 02:50 AM
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I believe (having a gay father) that gay marriage should be allowed, maybe not necessarily as a marriage as lots of people do find it offending to "redefine the definition of marriage (aka how my mother-in-law-to-be believes, she's a strict lutheran though so it's understandable) but in the very least they should get the taxation priviledges that we give other couples living together. If you operate the same aside from what gender you sleep in the same bed with and have to adopt as opposed to giving birth naturally, the government shouldn't punish you, it's just like an infertile traditional couple...
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