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Old 09-07-2004, 10:06 AM
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Even if she was a perp, since when do people get banned for that?
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Old 09-07-2004, 10:08 AM
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You know how when you and your sisters are at a fraternity party/mixer/bar, and your sorority song comes on and you all get in a circle and start singing, and some random gets in the middle of your circle and belts out the chorus?

She kinda did that. You just happened to not be at the bar when she was.
I have absolutely NOTHING to add to this thread.. but I this made me laugh just picturing this... thanks

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Old 09-07-2004, 10:13 AM
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Even if she was a perp, since when do people get banned for that?
You'll have to ask John. You know he doesn't really ban many people (except spammers). I don't think any of us will be able to give you his exact reasoning.

Maybe he's trying to send a message that all this crap needs to stop? Who knows? It's all conjecture until is comes from the man himself.
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Old 09-07-2004, 10:16 AM
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She wasn't a perp - as in pretending to be in a sorority (although her current state of membership in the sorority she claims is questionable). I think that there have been a few people banned for perping on the NPHC boards, it just was kept between the mods of that forum and John.
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Old 09-07-2004, 10:37 AM
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Even if she was a perp, since when do people get banned for that?
All I can tell was that she was an account created for the sole purpose of stirring s***. She had at least 2 other usernames that did the same thing.

There are many people (fortunately, IMHO a lot of them are mods that have John's ear when it comes to issues like this) that believe that GC can still be a valuable resource. Contrary to what many people think, this is not LJ or AIM where acceptable recreation seems to be making anonymous attacks on people, making fun of people, etc. GC was created to be a resource to GLO members, administrators, rushees, etc. It is not my or anyone else's plaything.

ETA: I don't know whether or not she was a "perp". I actually hope that she was. I know taht none of our organizations would support what those accounts were doing on here.
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:09 PM
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The thread mourning my disappearance made me feel a little guilty, so I decided to post. I started out as "kaydeelady83." which was probably something that had just popped into my head. However, this made me appear to be a member of a particular GLO, and this really wasn't fair to them. So I got a new username, first something boring, and then "_Q_." That seemed like an apt choice, since I'd always liked the character Q on Star Trek. As _Q_, I was geniunely curious about a lot of things, one of which turned out to be a very sensitive topic.

"tlnancy" was a homage to Ted L. Nancy, author of the "Letters From a Nut" books. It seemed like the "tlnancy" posts would have been funnier with a different persona, since "_Q_" had asked serious questions.

A while ago, there was a post about how a girl with some kind of physical flaw had rushed and the members had worked to make her love their house, even though they had no intention of inviting her back. I was appalled and wondered whether they thought of the PNM as a human being. Later, I thought about some of my own posts and realized that Carnation was also a human being. It was easy to look at some of the posts on GC and think, "How insensitive," but harder to realize that some of my own weren't any better.

After this, I ended up feeling sort of bad and decided that it was OK for tlnancy's posts to be ridiculous, but they shouldn't be mean. However, tlnancy got banned anyhow, which didn't really bother me too much. Ktsnake did seem to have a valid point. Although I don't think that I was as malicious as his post implied, I did perceive GC as pure entertainment. Maybe that in itself is a problem.
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Old 09-07-2004, 03:03 PM
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Thanks for that.

I apologize for any perceived ill-will you may have felt from me. You having said that makes you okay in my book.
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Old 09-07-2004, 03:15 PM
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This is edited to reflect that I didn't read _Q_ 's latest post before I posted mine. Thanks for the explanation.

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Old 09-07-2004, 03:40 PM
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Thanks, and I have no hard feelings. I was thinking more about why GC would be interesting to someone who wasn't affiliated. 33girl's post almost seems to suggest that I want to be perceived as a member of a GLO, and that's not really the case. It's been sort of a diversion, maybe sort of like reality TV, but where you get to participate too. But realistically, if I'm seriously upsetting other people here, then this form of entertainment is not OK.
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Old 09-07-2004, 03:49 PM
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Thanks, and I have no hard feelings. I was thinking more about why GC would be interesting to someone who wasn't affiliated. 33girl's post almost seems to suggest that I want to be perceived as a member of a GLO, and that's not really the case. It's been sort of a diversion, maybe sort of like reality TV, but where you get to participate too. But realistically, if I'm seriously upsetting other people here, then this form of entertainment is not OK.
Thanks again _Q_. Your inquiries are welcome. GC is a great place for folks to come and learn about the Greek Community and of course it's a great place for members of Greek Organizations to learn about their own organizations as well as the organizations of others.

Having been a founder to my chapter a few years ago, I had very little background on how organizations besides my own chapter functioned. GC has provided me with great insight and ideas on that subject. The CC board has always been a form of diversion for me and others.

I must say that your observation that you weren't (and I'd extend that to many of us) do not stop to think that there are real people behind the pseudonyms that many of us use is very astute. Thanks for that.

It take courage to admit you were wrong. It would have been much easier to just create a new name and start over.

I want to be clear to you that I wish to apologize for charging you with being a malicious person. I was wrong.
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Old 09-07-2004, 03:53 PM
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Thanks, and I have no hard feelings. I was thinking more about why GC would be interesting to someone who wasn't affiliated. 33girl's post almost seems to suggest that I want to be perceived as a member of a GLO, and that's not really the case.
The only thing I meant was that you initially had a username with a GLO in it and you seemed unsure if you were really terminated from membership. You definitely weren't trying to have any sorority affiliation with the new user name. Sorry if that came across wrong.
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Old 09-07-2004, 04:20 PM
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For a while, I've been thinking about telling my story on GC. The earlier narrative about my experiences with KD was somewhat incomplete, and it sounds like some people were hurt or offended. So I'll add some clarification.

Psychologists apparently use the term "twice exceptional" to describe people like me. It's sort of a sugar-coated way of saying that someone is bright but also has some kind of disability. Lauren's story (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/misunderstoo...eetlauren.html) is a little similar to mine, but there's a major difference. She was diagnosed in fifth grade, but it didn't happen for me until well into adulthood. Like Lauren, I wasn't hyperactive, but there were some significant problems, particularly the ability to develop social skills. I found some ways to compensate, and was able to get through high school with some friends and decent grades.

There were high hopes for me in college, but I was scared. It seemed like something was wrong, but nobody knew what it was. I'd been able to compensate well enough to get through sorority rush, and I'd hoped that this was a sign that the problems had gone away, and I might finally be able to be like other people.

Unfortunately, that wasn't what happened. The Kappa Deltas were generally nice people, and may have arguably been more tolerant than any of the other sororities on campus. But the problems were a big strain, both for them and for me. It was impossible for me to "read" social situations, the way others seemed to do naturally. This meant that I often made other people angry, without having any idea why. Then I'd get frustrated and tired of trying, and the downward spiral continued. Academics were also difficult, since it was hard to do things like follow lectures. Actually, even social events could be a strain, since it they often confused me.

If this was a movie, maybe it would end with some kind of silver bullet that fixed everything in one easy-to-swallow pill. But that wasn't what happened. I ended up graduating from a different school, getting a job, and working on a master's degree. It wasn't a matter of not making any more mistakes, though; it was more like falling a lot and getting back up. Gradually, I developed better strategies to get along with others and function better. A doctor finally diagnosed me and prescribed some Ritalin, which makes it easier to focus. It's also been a matter of consciously thinking about things.

Sometimes, it's frustrating that I wasn't able to get help earlier in life, and I mourn the wasted time and opportunities. Then I realize that my life is still pretty good and I'm luckier than a lot of other people.
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Old 09-07-2004, 04:30 PM
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Q, thanks for sharing your story.
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Old 09-07-2004, 04:49 PM
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You know, earlier when posters seem to think that I'd discredit any organization that I appeared to be affiliated with .....

I almost posted, "Bush/Cheney 2004!"
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Old 09-07-2004, 08:18 PM
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For the record Ktsnake has not insinuated that tlnancy was you, tippiechick, anywhere at all.
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