Girl's communion not valid, according to church

[AXOjen]

Originally posted by aurora_borealis
Yeah, I've had a ham & cheese on Jesus before.

Aurora, you can call your snack foods Jesus but that does not make it so. Sure, you've had a ham & cheese but it sure as heck wasn't on Jesus. But I suspect you already know that.

SilverTurtle, it can be a little confusing because sometimes we Catholics do (inaccurately) refer to the wine as His Blood and the wafer as His Body. Actually.... each contain both. We believe that the tiniest particle of either contains all of Christ.

So if this little girl received but a drop of Communion wine, she would be receiving the same Jesus that those who receive an entire host receive.

[seraphimsprite]

Yeah, reading this, I really want to know why the mother won't just take the "wine only" option.

I don't feel like the Catholic Church has a reputation for being particularly accomodating (although it certainly varies by diocese and even church) but in this case, it really just looks like the mother is being a pain in the a**.

And on the food allergies. . .well of course there are serious and legitimate allergies, but I do think its one of those things that's often exaggerated or overstated. I frequently tell people I'm allergic to onions because I hate them so much and otherwise they'll insist "try it, you'll like it."

[chideltjen]

Originally posted by ktsnake
Was that a Catholic Church?

I played the church service at our national convention, our Grand Chaplain was Episcopal -- didn't use the unlevened bread either. It was just torn up white bread.

Surprisingly... yes.

[chideltjen]

Originally posted by aephi alum
LOL @ the cinnamon raisin communion bread! What's next, challah?

Perhaps Krispy Kremes?

ETA because I am apparently post-whoring.

I haven't gone thru communion yet (RCIAA starts in Septemeber, which I may consider...) but I have seen cousins, friends, etc go thru it.
I am under the impression that when it's your first communion, you take both. Is it a church requirement to take both the first time or can you just bypass the bread or wine. I guess I assume this because all the kids I see do it are all excited to take communion and etc. But after the first time they take both or one. I mean if the girl took the wine and the "bread" her communion would technically be valid because she had wine. It would be like she just bypassed bread.

So this is why I am wondering if you are required to take both the first time around.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by AOIIsilver
Taualumna wrote...

Taualumna, unfortunately, I can top that....from what I gather, our Reverand forgot the communion bread one Sunday and had to run across the street to purchase bread.
I was sitting near the front and was pretty shocked to see black things in the bread and what appeared to be swirls in the bread. Murmurings were all though the church before the plate made it to the back...
Yep, we had communion with cinnamon raisin bread!

[SilverTurtle]

Originally posted by AXOjen


SilverTurtle, it can be a little confusing because sometimes we Catholics do (inaccurately) refer to the wine as His Blood and the wafer as His Body. Actually.... each contain both. We believe that the tiniest particle of either contains all of Christ.

So if this little girl received but a drop of Communion wine, she would be receiving the same Jesus that those who receive an entire host receive.

Oh, okay. Thanks for the explanation!

[AXOjen]

Originally posted by chideltjen
So this is why I am wondering if you are required to take both the first time around.

I don't want it to look like I think I'm the resident Catholic expert, because I so am not... but I do teach 2nd grade CCD and just had my own daughter receive her First Communion, so this question I can answer.

Nope... you don't have to receive under both species your first time or any time. Different parishes do different things. Some offer both species while others offer just one.

Best wishes as you consider RCIA! I went through it 10 years ago. The classes themselves were a waste of time (not a good parish) but becoming Catholic was/is wonderful!

[Taualumna]

I'm wondering if the girl's mom refused the wine because the cup could contain traces of wheat?

[adduncan]

Originally posted by Taualumna
I'm wondering if the girl's mom refused the wine because the cup could contain traces of wheat?

IF it did, and that is one huge "if", it wouldn't be enough to cause a major reaction because of sprue.

--add

[Rudey]

Maybe they're exaggerating and maybe they're not. That's up for debate. None of you are doctors or have provided her with a diagnosis. That's not up for debate.

-Rudey

[33girl]

ok, I'm dumb. Don't all Catholics do intinction?

My (Lutheran) church I grew up in has varying breads and individual cups of wine kinda like shot glasses. The church I go to downtown does intinction. They also have the Stations of the Cross on the wall.

[aephi alum]

Sounds like a buffet!

I'm not familiar with the term "intinction" so I looked it up and learned that it refers to the practice of dipping the wafer in the wine and then offering it to the recipient. I received communion once in this manner, back when I was Catholic, but it's very unusual. Usually the bread and wine are presented separately. When you receive a communion wafer, the priest or eucharistic minister can put it into your hands or onto your tongue. You indicate which you prefer by either holding out your hands or opening your mouth. When you receive wine, everyone drinks from the same chalice. The priest or eucharistic minister hands you the chalice, you take a sip and hand it back, and the priest or eucharistic minister wipes the rim of the chalice before presenting it to the next person.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Just to clarify. Intinction means dipping the Body in the Blood and placing it in the mouth. I haven't seen that in years. At my church, the priest distributes the Eucharist Host only and will place the Eucharist directly in the mouth or in the hand and the recipient puts it in his or her mouth.

The church at college used individual containers that looked like shot glasses to distribute the Blood. It was to prevent germs from spreading since college students are always getting sick.

[ISUKappa]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
The church at college used individual containers that looked like shot glasses to distribute the Blood. It was to prevent germs from spreading since college students are always getting sick.

Every church I've ever been to [LCMS-Lutheran] has had both the common and the individual cup offered. I've only taken the individual--I'm too chicken to use the common. Not because I'm afraid of getting sick, I'm afraid of doing something dumb (I'm a bit of a klutz) and then whoops! there goes the blood of Jesus all down the alter.

[PhiPsiRuss]

I think that they should offer a little jar of preserves to go with the wafer, and espresso in that little coffee cup. The Catholic Church could put a dent into Dunkin Doughnuts' business. Just a thought.