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Old 08-17-2004, 11:44 AM
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It's interesting that people say that dress codes don't really matter, because in Ontario, Catholic school students tend to do better than their public school counterparts. Catholic schools, at least the high schools, have uniforms while public schools don't.

Note: The majority of Catholic schools in Ontario receive full government funding and are run just like public schools.
This is actually location dependant. Where I grew up, public schools do much better. Where is your source on the "overall" stat? I grew up hearing about how Catholic school sucked academically, so I'm a skeptic.

The decision to move to uniforms is open to any Ontario school council. It's just that Catholic highschools have been the first to do it.

AND on that note... all the boys in the Catholic system wear their uniform "hip hop style" anyways. There is no rule saying that the uniform has to fit. <- at least in Waterloo and anywhere else I've been.

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Old 08-17-2004, 11:56 AM
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Overly baggy pants look effing stupid. I don't care if the people wearing them are white, black, brown, yellow or green or what they are hiding or not hiding in there. I think they should be banned for the same reason dark lipliner/pale lips should be banned - IT LOOKS STUPID!!

The only thing I will say about uniforms is if your school is going to go that route, go all the way. Have a real uniform - don't do this "khakis and a white or blue collared shirt" crap. That only results in kids hating useful clothing (like khakis) and it does nothing to prevent class distinctions, when Susie's shirt is from Lauren and Becky's is from KMart.
I agree - the whole look is just stupid.

I also agree about if you're going to do uniforms, do them all the way. I was in private school for 4 years, the first 3 we had a dress code and the last year was uniforms, and I swore off khakis for about 10 years after I left...lol.

Kids are still going to make fun of something. With uniforms, it may not be Jenny's pair of jeans, but now they're probably going to make fun of something more permanent, like her looks or something physical.

Besides, now that they're not spending daddy's money on designer jeans, they have more money available to them for cigarettes and drugs.
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Old 08-17-2004, 12:01 PM
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I agree - the whole look is just stupid.

I also agree about if you're going to do uniforms, do them all the way. I was in private school for 4 years, the first 3 we had a dress code and the last year was uniforms, and I swore off khakis for about 10 years after I left...lol.

Kids are still going to make fun of something. With uniforms, it may not be Jenny's pair of jeans, but now they're probably going to make fun of something more permanent, like her looks or something physical.

Besides, now that they're not spending daddy's money on designer jeans, they have more money available to them for cigarettes and drugs.
With uniforms, it's often HOW one wears it...my school had cardigans for a couple of years, but anyone who wore them was teased endlessly (they were really big, almost blazer-like). They got rid of them because it was so unpopular.
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Old 08-17-2004, 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by Taualumna
It's interesting that people say that dress codes don't really matter, because in Ontario, Catholic school students tend to do better than their public school counterparts. Catholic schools, at least the high schools, have uniforms while public schools don't.

Note: The majority of Catholic schools in Ontario receive full government funding and are run just like public schools.
I don't think you should use Catholic schools as a comparison. My brother's friend's father is a VP in a Catholic school and many catholic schools have serious problems. There is a lot of violence with in many catholic school. I agree with Russ. Uniforms often treat the symptoms of bigger problems rather than the cause.

When the teacher threw himself down the stairs (yes he did it to himself) and blamed the neo-nazi skin head at my school and a certain dress code came into effect. No docs or army boots with white or red laces. This doesn't solve anything. All it does is make the kids with these behaviours less visable. It doesn't help them see how misguided their views are.
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Old 08-17-2004, 01:17 PM
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Re: Should boys be allowed to wear hip hop clothes, a related thread

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Since we have a thread about the "sexualization of daughters", I feel that we should also have one about boys and what they wear. I would think that the male equivilant to the Britney/Christina esque outfits that girls wear would be anything very hip-hop. Should boys be allowed to wear that? Do you think it is rude (since the styles may be gang-related)? What do you think is appropriate for boys to wear while at school?
They should be able to wear them. Hip hop wear doesn't = Gang related wear. There are certain colors and numbers and that's about it. But it's dumb to me because if that be the case, everything a little boy wears would be restricted.

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Old 08-17-2004, 03:15 PM
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i just thought that i would share a couple of things before i give my opinion on the topic at hand...

1) the oversized, baggy look was actually adapted from prison garb and made its way to the outside world

2) current trends in hip-hop are white t-shirts and jeans (which many schools and clubs are banning--why? i don't know ) or "button-downs" and jeans.

ANYWAY...

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Should boys be allowed to wear that?
sure, why not? if that is what they want to wear, i say let them dress that way. it won't cause a distraction. it won't hinder the learning process. and hell, if girls want to dress "hip-hop", they can too.

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Do you think it is rude (since the styles may be gang-related)?
if we're going to call colorful clothes, jerseys, white t-shirts and bold brands/logos, "hip-hop", then let's call it hip-hop. it's not gang-related. it's colorful, athletic and bold styling, not rude.

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What do you think is appropriate for boys to wear while at school?
pants, shirts, shoes and deoderant.

i would also like to agree with Lady Pi Phi in that private Catholic schools wouldn't be the best comparison. and i want to add that Canadian schools and American schools differ in many, many ways that would make either argument flawed.
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