Should more "mostly AA/Asian/Hispanic sororities and fraternities" be integrated? - Page 3

irish · #31 05-13-2004, 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by Tex1899
Sort of off topic...why do most BGLO and Hispanic GLO chapters tend to be smaller than NIC/NPC groups? I'm not too familiar with traditionally Asian groups...do they tend to be smaller?

If I had to guess, I would think Hispanic and Asian GLO's would be bigger in California...

i'm white and a member of an asian-american interest fraternity, lambda phi epsilon. it was founded in 1981 at UCLA, and as you guessed, there are a ton of chapters in cali -- 13 of our 42 chapters. there are also a lot of chapters in the north east and east coast. people of all races are welcomed, there's no discrimination based on race. my chapter has had irish, mexican, greek, indian and many other nationalities represented since we were founded in 1995.

in general our chapters are comparably smaller than historically white orgs. my school has a greek participation of about 10% of the student body of about 4,500 undergrads, and the greek system is generally looked down upon at my school by the administration and not supported. right now, we have 10 actives with a spring class of 2 potentially being crossed this quarter.

msn4med1975 · #32 05-13-2004, 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by suntzu1963
Are you talking about a specific chapter or Nationally?

It's a specific chapter, and if I can scroll through my web history I'll post the link.

I can't find the chapter website, but I saw several of the profiles when I was roaming the centauronline.com site. The university is Lebanon Valley College, it's still a colony and the individual I'm talking about has a profile up under 2Showtime1963

Kevin · #33 05-14-2004, 12:45 AM

We voted to integrate in 1968. Since then, blacks who have met the same requirments as white members have become brothers. It's unfortunate that it took that long, I think we missed a lot of great brothers because of that rule. It only passed by 1 vote after having failed 2 years previously. Y'all might have heard about that though with Brother Tom Johnson coming out against Brother Trent Lott after some of Brother Lott's statements at Senator Thurmand's last birthday party.

In some places, race isn't an issue, in others, it is. No one can "force" integration in our types of organizations. It just happens because cultures change and dividing lines fade. I like that we're becoming a much more accepting culture, but there is a ways to go yet.

suntzu1963 · #34 05-14-2004, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by msn4med1975
It's a specific chapter, and if I can scroll through my web history I'll post the link.

I can't find the chapter website, but I saw several of the profiles when I was roaming the centauronline.com site. The university is Lebanon Valley College, it's still a colony and the individual I'm talking about has a profile up under 2Showtime1963

I know who you are talking about. That is a very diverse colony. I was confused if you meant chapter or nationally, but I understand now. Thanks for responding.

ChaosDST · #35 05-14-2004, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
but there is a ways to go yet.

That's the understatement of the century.

starang21 · #36 05-14-2004, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by ChaosDST
That's the understatement of the century.

and this board is proof positive of it.

jubilance1922 · #37 05-14-2004, 01:41 PM

I think a lot of great points have been brought up, especially the one about how all the councils are integrated. Yes, my sorority was created by seven Black schoolteachers, but now I have sorors of every race, creed, class, and color and I love them all.

People should choose an organization that best fits them, not just because of their race.

Empress0105 · #38 05-14-2004, 11:59 PM

I'm going to piggy back a little bit...

While BGLO chapters may be smaller one white campuses...please so not think they are small everywhere.

It is very common to see sororities cross 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 (even into the 100s) of young women at one time. Case in point, Alpha Kappa Alpha at Albany State (GA) had 101 girls this spring....whereas my friend crossed Delta Sigma Theta at ?U of Akron in a class of 6....

now if say, Sigma Sigma Sigma, or Phi Mu chartered at an HBCU...i doubt if they would be the same size as they are at other schools.

Spekaign of which...how many HBCUs have "white" orgs on campus that are not professional, honorary, recognition, etc....but purely social. (IE, Delta Zeta, Phi Mu, Sigma Sigma Sigma, Delta Delta Delta, etc.)

I think that speaks a lot more on diversity...to me...

Jill1228 · #39 05-15-2004, 12:44 AM

I know that North Carolina A&T had a chapter of Lambda Chi Alpha...I don't know if they still have it...

Anyone know?

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Originally posted by Empress0105
I'm going to piggy back a little bit...

Spekaign of which...how many HBCUs have "white" orgs on campus that are not professional, honorary, recognition, etc....but purely social. (IE, Delta Zeta, Phi Mu, Sigma Sigma Sigma, Delta Delta Delta, etc.)

I think that speaks a lot more on diversity...to me...

starang21 · #40 05-15-2004, 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by Jill1228
I know that North Carolina A&T had a chapter of Lambda Chi Alpha...I don't know if they still have it...

Anyone know?

yea man, i heard about that......i wonder how they got down.....

DigitalAngel126 · #41 05-15-2004, 01:50 AM

When I see threads like this I always think the same thing... 'Should more "mostly AA/Asian/Hispanic sororities and fraternities be integrated?'. If they're MOSTLY exclusive, but not TOTALLY, that would already make them integrated to a point... wouldn't it??

aopirose · #42 05-15-2004, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by Empress0105
Spekaign of which...how many HBCUs have "white" orgs on campus that are not professional, honorary, recognition, etc....but purely social. (IE, Delta Zeta, Phi Mu, Sigma Sigma Sigma, Delta Delta Delta, etc.)

I think that speaks a lot more on diversity...to me...

Many years ago, Sigma Pi and Tri Sigma did try to colonize at Tennessee State. Sigma Pi lasted for awhile but never chartered. At least, they weren't listed on the national site last I looked. There was another NPC looking to take over the former Tri Sigma group but I don't think came that to fruition either.

I know that we discussed this in another thread. I think that it would be harder for NPCs to colonize at HBCUs without an interest group. At least with an interest group, you already have a core group who knows what you are about. I could go on but I'm going on vacation. Have a nice weekend everybody!

Tom Earp · #43 05-15-2004, 04:02 PM

JillyBean, I will try to find out!

Once again the ASPs raises its head to be so posioness!

BGLOS have been around for a very long time. MGLOs are fairly new to the scene fo Greek Life.

The reasons that most BGLOS and MGLOS dont have houses, is simply economics. They do not have the members or size to be able to afford houses. I am not talking about Huge houses. Hell, most Colleges of State level have smaller houses. (BUILDINGS for Some)!

Now, as I underStand it, that many of the HBGLOS have houses on HBGLOs Campui.

Can some one with some sense please give some more information.

Munchkin03 · #44 05-15-2004, 04:56 PM

Re: NPHC chapters and houses:

Doesn't KAPsi have a house at their Auburn chapter? I think I remember seeing one. And either AKA or DST has a house at U.Alabama.

starang21 · #45 05-15-2004, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by Munchkin03
Re: NPHC chapters and houses:

Doesn't KAPsi have a house at their Auburn chapter? I think I remember seeing one. And either AKA or DST has a house at U.Alabama.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...a&pagenumber=2

not of the kappas, but of my frat brothers.