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valkyrie · #31 03-24-2003, 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by Kevlar281
Click the link.

I hardly find some dude's personal website to be compelling evidence of anything, especially when a brief reading of some of his articles indicates that he is a pro-gun guy with a website.

damasa · #32 03-24-2003, 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
I hardly find some dude's personal website to be compelling evidence of anything, especially when a brief reading of some of his articles indicates that he is a pro-gun guy with a website.

I would happen to agree with this....

And Bowling for Columbine was VERY good.

Kevlar281 · #33 03-24-2003, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
I hardly find some dude's personal website to be compelling evidence of anything, especially when a brief reading of some of his articles indicates that he is a pro-gun guy with a website.

I hardly find some dude's movie to be compelling evidence of anything, especially when a brief viewing of some of his books/movies indicates that he is a anti-gun guy with a website.

lifesaver · #34 03-24-2003, 05:16 PM

Michael Moore is an idiot.

Seriously. I'll defend his right to say it (as I read somewhere, its not against the law to be an idiot).

I just cant stand americans who obviously hate americans.

Seriously, the anti-industrialist socialist thing is so 1900.

I am sure he flew to the oscars, or at least drove there, using some form of petrolium as fuel? If hes all that hella up about it, let him walk, or ride bikes. Luv some hipprocracy. He looks like he could us a good walk somwehere.

librasoul22 · #35 03-24-2003, 06:42 PM

You know what's funny? I bet if Micahel Moore had got up on stage and said THANK GOD WE ARE AT WAR!! KILL SADDAM AND WIPE OUT IRAQ!!!!11 y'all would have been all about it.

As for famous vs. "average" Americans having the right to voice their opinion...I didn't know there were varying degrees? So, since I am not winning an Oscar, that means I can say whatever I want? But since Moore won an Oscar, he cannot? Mmmkay.

Kevlar, considering your screenname, your stance isn't a real big surprise.

ETA: Also, people are acting like everyone was booing. Not the case. Many people actually gave him a standing ovation.

smiley21 · #36 03-24-2003, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by librasoul22

ETA: Also, people are acting like everyone was booing. Not the case. Many people actually gave him a standing ovation.

probably due to the fact that he was already getting a standing ovation from the award, they were too shocked to sit down.
i know some people were clapping. i did not say everyone was booing. i dont know who said something about michael not saying what he thinks because he won an oscar. anybody can say whatever the hell they want.
from now on let all of america say whatever comes to their minds without a care in the world. cause by God this is the United States of America and we are free

was that sarcastic? you bet it was.
i know we are entitled to their opinions. but i grew up learning that we need to respect other's positions.
michael should have accepted his award said his speech and left. he wanted to state his opinion so bad, he should make a documentary about it.
even if he did say 'yeah for the war and kill saddam' he still would have been out of line.
people make me so damn mad sometimes

Kevlar281 · #37 03-24-2003, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by librasoul22
Kevlar, considering your screenname, your stance isn't a real big surprise.

Way to psychoanalyze a nickname I received when I was sixteen and playing ice hockey. I’m surprised you just didn’t cheap shot me and say something about me living in Texas. Here’s another link to a crackpot pro-gun nut

AlphaGamDiva · #38 03-24-2003, 07:56 PM

hmmm...wondering if librasoul was referencing himself to the statement i made about how celebs have more of an outlet to express themselves than someone like me (a meer commoner in society) who can simply decorate her car with glass chaulk. that is all i meant in that posting....not saying that they have more or less of a right to say what they think, but i do feel that they have a bigger soapbox than the "average" person, and should take that priviledge with some responsibility to be respectful of other's who may think differently. it was not necessary for michael moore to start yelling and screaming over ppl last night to shame the president and claim that we live in "ficticious times" with a "ficticious president"...yatta, yatta, BS. there's a reason that these lil talks after someone receives an award are called "ACCEPTANCE SPEECHES" and not "POLITICAL RANTS"....i mean, seriously.....and maybe if he had been more tactful about expressing his views, more people would have respect for him and perhaps he could have even changed some people's minds. there are plenty of celebs out there who do work for this country and orgs they believe in without getting on a televised event (that is meant to CELEBRATE artists, movies, and filmmakers) and make a spectacle of themselves. c'mon......
anyway, that's all i meant....i thought that was clearly stated, but i guess not. sorry for the confusion...we all have the same right to say how we feel......i just think that celebs should take their position seriously and not act like a jackass, abusing their platform for their freedon of speech.

librasoul22 · #39 03-24-2003, 08:13 PM

Okay, let me just state for the record, that I don't necessarily agree with how Moore expressed himself last night. I am just trying to show another perspective. Sometimes people get so caught up in their own opinions and points of view that they automatically dismiss others simply because they are contrary.

Kevlar, you picked the name not me. Kevlar is pretty universally known to be the namebrand for bulletproof vests. Now, had it also been known to be a common nickname from high school ice hockey buddies, I would never have made the original connection.

smiley, actually I wasn't referring to you personally...simmer down, lol. I just think that sometimes, the pot needs to be stirred. Whether or not you agree with him, it has everyone talking right? I am pretty sure that was his sole objective.

And AlphaGamDiva...I am a HER! But I do see your point, thank you for clarifying.

AlphaGamDiva · #40 03-24-2003, 08:20 PM

woo....sorry, librasoul! don't mean to do a genderswap on ya!!!!!! lol

Kevlar281 · #41 03-24-2003, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by librasoul22
Kevlar, you picked the name not me. Kevlar is pretty universally known to be the namebrand for bulletproof vests. Now, had it also been known to be a common nickname from high school ice hockey buddies, I would never have made the original connection.

Well then I will refrain from making a connection to the number 22 in your screen name and a certain rifle…

smiley21 · #42 03-24-2003, 08:25 PM

people please stop it!!!!!!!!!!!! i just wanted to talk about what happened at the oscars! i dont need to have all of these hidden nasty remarks to each other. please knock it off!

we have stated our opinions maybe this thread needs to end.