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08-26-2017, 11:49 AM
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But then some of those same kids who are affected by those factors you just named are still getting in bc they're in the top 7% of their classes. And when they flunk out, the state shrugs and says, "Oh well, we gave then the chance."
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I've got some outdoor stuff to enjoy right now but you can pull the graduation and drop out rates for UT and compare to the other schools in question.
We come to the same conclusion.
Texas is harder to get into. And it's apples to oranges when talking about the state of greek life at UT versus Alabama and the rest.
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08-26-2017, 11:52 AM
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I don't need to, I have access to them.
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08-26-2017, 11:41 AM
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@SWTXBelle.
From that same article:
"The rejection of a seemingly qualified student can be the result of many factors: lack of depth or accomplishment in extracurricular activities; failure to demonstrate leadership ability; a lack of challenging AP, IB or Honors courses; a sloppy admissions essay; and more. Also, out-of-state applicants will face a higher admissions bar than Texas students."
Again, t's hard getting into UT and greek minded kids are going elsewhere because of it.
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No one has claimed it is easy to get into UT; we've just pointed out that not being admitted to UT does not merit snarky comments about them not being Texas' finest. There are a number of factors that might contribute to a qualified student's decision to attend another school. Having taught at a highly regarded private school in Houston, I've been able to see what a variety of students consider when choosing amongst various colleges. Sometimes it is a mature decision based on criteria we would applaud; sometimes it's whether or not the campus gets snow.
ETA - The young women for whom I've written recs to Bama, U of GA, U of OK, etc. have been exceptional. Complete packages - grades, service, leadership, looks, and no problem with money. I'd gladly claim them as among Texas' finest.
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08-26-2017, 11:47 AM
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While colleges may hold OOS students to higher admission bars, the fact remains that OOS students are money makers for the colleges and colleges are money pits. It behooves said college to admit OOS students if for no other reason than money.
Several schools cleverly boosted their GPA admission statistics by offering free rides to stellar students from OOS. Unfortunately that meant that some local students would not be able to attend their preferred in state school, but hey, that low GPA is slowly rising.
State schools are still state schools, whether they are crowned "the best" or a "public ivy" in a magazine trying to sell copies or alumni trying to make themselves seem more important than they really are. Some people place the importance on ivy, while others realize it is still a public university.
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08-26-2017, 05:19 PM
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"still a public university".
I'd take a public like CalBerkeley, UCLA or Michigan any day over most privates. Some of the best universities in the nation are publics.
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08-26-2017, 12:08 PM
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Batten down those hatches PVGord and stay safe.
Since I have lived in various parts of the US during my adult life, I have consistently encountered two things concerning flagship universities.
1. Some graduates of those schools have a hard time believing that in-state students with similar grades and resumes' would choose to go elsewhere for college. They automatically assume those students weren't admitted.
2. Those graduates have a strong need to make sure others know their alma mater is a flagship or public ivy. Anyone ever read "The Sneetches" by Dr. Suess?
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08-26-2017, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FSUZeta
Batten down those hatches PVGord and stay safe.
Since I have lived in various parts of the US during my adult life, I have consistently encountered two things concerning flagship universities.
1. Some graduates of those schools have a hard time believing that in-state students with similar grades and resumes' would choose to go elsewhere for college. They automatically assume those students weren't admitted.
2. Those graduates have a strong need to make sure others know their alma mater is a flagship or public ivy. Anyone ever read "The Sneetches" by Dr. Suess?
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True facts.
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08-26-2017, 05:14 PM
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Batten down those hatches PVGord and stay safe.
Since I have lived in various parts of the US during my adult life, I have consistently encountered two things concerning flagship universities.
1. Some graduates of those schools have a hard time believing that in-state students with similar grades and resumes' would choose to go elsewhere for college. They automatically assume those students weren't admitted.
2. Those graduates have a strong need to make sure others know their alma mater is a flagship or public ivy. Anyone ever read "The Sneetches" by Dr. Suess?
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I'm not assuming. I have years of experience with kids going elsewhere because they are not admitted to UT. Texas is really proud of it's status, as evidenced by the out-sized attitude of UT alum the world over.
This is getting old so I'm happy to capitulate: If you think that Alabama, Ole Miss and Arkansas students are of equal academic caliber to UT students, we can just let that stand.
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08-26-2017, 09:03 PM
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I'm not assuming. I have years of experience with kids going elsewhere because they are not admitted to UT. Texas is really proud of it's status, as evidenced by the out-sized attitude of UT alum the world over.
This is getting old so I'm happy to capitulate: If you think that Alabama, Ole Miss and Arkansas students are of equal academic caliber to UT students, we can just let that stand.
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"Its" is the correct word. "It's" is the contraction for "it is."
Public high school, OOS university.
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08-26-2017, 12:18 PM
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Back to Recruitment - any word on whether there are changes to parties or schedule due to Harvey?
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08-26-2017, 12:31 PM
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TAMU girls will hear which group they have gotten from their recruitment counselors today. Bid Day festivities are postponed.
Understandable but darn! What a letdown!
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08-26-2017, 12:40 PM
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TAMU girls will hear which group they have gotten from their recruitment counselors today. Bid Day festivities are postponed.
Understandable but darn! What a letdown!
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How anti-climactic for them. I guess it's about the sisterhood and not the celebration, but I hope the groups are able to welcome them in their own way when the weather isn't quite so bad.
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08-26-2017, 12:44 PM
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Someone has suggested that because of this method of bid delivery, more girls who don't like their bids might drop. There won't be as much camaraderie to propel them to Bid Day.
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08-26-2017, 01:10 PM
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Someone has suggested that because of this method of bid delivery, more girls who don't like their bids might drop. There won't be as much camaraderie to propel them to Bid Day.
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That thought occurred to me. On the plus side, Texas State has extended registration for recruitment, so maybe we'll get some more pnms.
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08-26-2017, 05:37 PM
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Wow ~ I've never responded on here but as a mom whose daughter WAS accepted at Texas but chose Alabama I had to respond to Pvgord's somewhat snarky comments. I still remember my daughter coming home from Texas and saying she liked it but she LOVED Alabama and it had been 6 months since her last visit. It was Ok with us since they paid 100 percent of her school! She was from a high profile, academic school listed above! My daughter and our family had a lot of connections at UT through school and business and DD attended one of the high profile camps. I had no concerns about a Texas rush for her rather than the usual concerns. She DID NOT attend Bama because she had no other option nor do most of the Texas kids we know there. Most do not want to go to school with the same kids they have been with since pre-school. My daughter had a fabulous Rush at Alabama and was not dropped from even one sorority. The football has been a lot better at Alabama, too! And we ARE Texas fans but we love cheering for a winner!
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