Possible Expansion at LSU - Page 3

DPhiEAngel · #31 10-19-2002, 12:35 PM

I wish that smaller NPC's were given the chance to colonize at larger schools.

Delta Phi Epsilon has a ton of chapters in the northeast, but most of them are at small schools. We have maybe 10 chapters at large schools, if that many.

I am currently living in the Seattle area and I get so frustrated because no one has ever heard of DPhiE. Everyone I encounter thinks it's a local sorority, and I'm sure they would think the same thing of ASA, AST, TPA, etc.

I made a new friend out here and she was a Zeta at Texas and had never heard of DPhiE either, but hopefully our colonization at TAMUK will help us become a little more visible in that state.

33girl · #32 10-19-2002, 01:21 PM

Re LSU, until the "Alpha curse" is broken, I don't think we will even think about it since ASA has twice the Alpha's.

It is a vicious circle. You need the $$$ to expand to large campuses, but if you aren't on a lot of large campuses, it is hard to pull in the $$$. I have absolutely nothing against going to small schools, but let's face it - our new chapter at Roanoke College in VA is going to take 20 years to get the same amount of members that the new KKG chapter at UF is going to get in, oh, 3 years. It's going to take us till 2022 to see the same kind of ROI that KKG will see by 2005.

If you look at the smaller groups, it's mainly the social/educational sororities that went straight social, or the groups that were created for a specific population (ie sororities for Catholic or Jewish women).

The problem with really trying to do anything to remedy the lopsidedness among sororities is that you get into issues of sovereignty and independence. NPC would have to exercise rights that it simply doesn't possess. I don't think every sorority is ever going to be equal, but after 50 years, I would hope the footing would be a little more even than it is.

I need to step back from this topic before I use up all the bandwidth...

DeltaBetaBaby · #33 10-19-2002, 01:32 PM

A lot of people feel that the smaller orgs need to be given a chance, but let's be realistic, here, this is LSU.

I am part of the largest Panhellenic in the world. If a new group were to be invited (which will not happen any time soon, IMO), the options would be as follows:

ASA
AST
AZD
DPhiE
SSS
TPA
ZTA

ZTA and DPhiE were both here at one point, so these would both be viable choices. I am not sure if any of the other groups have been here.

So those of you who are still thinking this isn't fair, consider this:

ASA, AST, and SSS each have at least three chapters at Northern Illinois, Western Illinois, Eastern Illinois, U of I-Chicago, and Southern Illinois. There may be even more in the state, but there are the ones of which I am certain.

I would think that any of those groups would have a good chance of success colonizing here.

However, I know of at least one group on this campus that is struggling, and it is one of the smaller groups, with very little presence in Illinois and the Midwest.

My point is that you can't start at a huge university and expect to do well. You have to first build up a base in the area, starting with some of the smaller schools.

sbhill2 · #34 10-19-2002, 01:34 PM

Its interesting to read all this about expansion because our school is forming a Panhellenic Expansion committee to see about adding another sorority to our campus so its good to read all this to see what its all about. Does anyone know when those presentations will be made to Panhellenic at LSU?

33girl · #35 10-19-2002, 01:52 PM

DeltaBetaBaby,

Thanks for putting ASA first on your list, even if you were just being alphabetical.

We actually were at Illinois from around 1982 till 1991. In the state currently, we are at Northern, Eastern, Western and 3 schools in Chicago. (DePaul, Loyola, IIT)

Believe me, as far as where I'd like us to go back to, U of I is in the top 3. From our keyboards to Panhel's ears....hee hee.

shadokat · #36 10-19-2002, 11:22 PM

Speaking for myself and not my entire organization, I do believe that expanding to smaller schools in places where we don't have strong bases is CRUCIAL to allow us to expand to larger universities in the future. As DPhiEAngel has stated, we are colonizing at TAMUK and at Schreiner University in Texas right now...our first chapters in TX in awhile. These groups help establish a base in TX, so if some day UT Austin decides to open its doors, we have a base there to work from. Expansion isn't always about finding the biggest schools and going there. Especially not for the smaller NPC sororities. DPhiE is not KKG, and our resources aren't the same. We don't work from the same mindset as the "big guns" in NPC, but we continue to grow and expand.

Like 33girl said, the smaller sororities were formed from either educational/social sororities or for a group of women who didn't have the same opportunities to join the older, larger NPC groups. D Phi E, while having ALWAYS been non-sectarian, was formed by 5 Jewish ladies who were looking to start a diverse group. Yes, they were all Jewish, but they began a sorority that would provide a home for all women. If in the beginning that included just Jewish women, it would be because they were not welcomed at other NPC sororities. As that is no longer the case in today's university environment, DPhiE has had to come up with newer and better programs and ideas to fuel their expansion, and they are doing an amazing job with that! I can't speak for the other smaller sororities in this vein. But I do know one thing...if you want to succeed, you have to take calculated risks, and DPhiE breaks new ground on that often

Kudos to them! (OK, I'm a little biased)

texas*princess · #37 10-20-2002, 01:52 AM

best wishes to the TAMUK and Schreiner colonies... hopefully we can get one at UNT here soon & take Texas by storm!!

GPhiBLtColonel · #38 10-20-2002, 01:11 PM

SBHILL2 -- where are you? What university is conisdering expansion?"

sbhill2 · #39 10-20-2002, 01:46 PM

Clemson Universtiy is considering expanding. They are beginning to form an expansion committee to see if we need another one or not. WE don't even know for sure if we are going to add another sorority or not.

carnation · #40 10-20-2002, 07:06 PM

Hmmm. Our South Carolina Beta chapter was there--maybe we'll get to come back!

TigerGirl52 · #41 10-21-2002, 01:28 AM

Just thought I would stop by and post some of my thoughts. I'm really happy to see LSU considering expansion. I am not in a NPC sorority here at LSU but I do know many girls who are members of the 10 NPC sororities on campus. I know their pledge class sizes are outrageous. I also see how cutthroat and vicious formal rush can be. I always consider adding new groups to the existing ones is a good idea. I wish both groups the best of luck.

My only problem is with the housing situation. My sorority has been on campus since 1989. We are not a big group by any means but we are still very much involved in greek life at LSU. We used to have a "house" on campus...LSU let us rent out an old apartment in one of the office buildings for a few years. We gave it up a few years back because of various problems. So now here we are looking very seriously for a house. We have been doing so ever since I was a new member of my sorority. We have been promised time and time again that if a house opens up we will be first on the list for that house. So the Delta Chi house opened up last semester (I think...cant really remember) and we've been given the run around about that. Now I'm hearing that the new group will get that house ahead of us. It's just disappointing to hear this sort of stuff. I feel that my sorority could really benefity from having a house but time and time again we get passed over. So I guess I just have mixed feelings about all of this. I'll continue to support the expansion but it just leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth that we're getting passed over in the process.

Sorry for the rant.

Allison

OleMissGlitter · #42 02-10-2004, 12:47 PM

What ever happened with this?

Anyone know?

33girl · #43 02-10-2004, 01:42 PM

OleMissGlitter, you must have been receiving my thought waves because I was thinking that Ole Miss & LSU are a lot alike.

Tri-Sigma was invited to come to LSU, but changed their mind and decided not to colonize because the house they would be in needed so much done to it. There was a thread on this but for some reason I can't find it in the search.

http://www.lsureveille.com/vnews/dis...5?in_archive=1

OleMissGlitter · #44 02-10-2004, 02:17 PM

Thanks! I was just curious!

xo_kathy · #45 02-10-2004, 03:11 PM

That article said that AXO was on the campus in the 70's and didn't have adequate housing, and they didn't want to make that same mistake again. Didn't someone already post that this house it, in fact, the original LSU AXO house? I just thought that was interesting.