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Old 05-23-2007, 09:48 PM
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And this is the first thing you want to be associated with?
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:55 PM
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Yeah man this is a REALLY embarassing part of our history at ASU.

I can't believe Brian Buck said something like that......had I been busted I would have pulled a huge mea culpa. This is disgraceful. Our letters on a porn site? Wow...that is bad and makes us look like a bunch of degenerates.

You would think something like that would warrant a White Star Expulsion...but apparently this guy is still a badge holding brother (I just checked our directory).
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:57 PM
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It was a LONG time ago. Everyone associated is gone. I don't condone the behavior, and am disappointed that nationals didn't expel Buck.
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:06 PM
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Ladies don't bring Fraternity standards into this.

Don't try to say "well women's groups punish for this, male groups should also" There is no double standard here.

There is no double standard because men don't have an unwritten rule about this. We may never have had one.

If you want to ostrasize/suspend/expell your Sisters-For-Life for being human and liberated, thats all on you. But you have no call asking us to be hypocrites, judgemental, or limit someone else's Right to Free Expression. LOL

Liking sex and have more partners than the exec board . . . get expelled.

Like to party and get wild more than the exec board or the standards committee. . . get expelled.

Make money showing your body in Playboy . . . get expelled. LOL

Make money showing your or part naked body in a movie, PG R X whatever . . . get expelled.

Although I fully realize that this will differ from chapter to chapter. Where one chapter would climb on a a high horse and expell you, another more sophisticated chapter would just laugh it off.



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It's not about fraternities' individual rules so much as the way society sees a double standard. The reason given in most sororities for taking the badge of a woman if it's related to behavior is that she might damage the chapter's reputation and hurt their rush. And this can be very true, depending on the campus. I think it's unfortunate, and I don't entirely agree with it, BUT that's currently what has to be done if sororities are to exist as they are today, I think. It's a double standard in society. Definitely an issue not limited to Greeks. If a girl's chapter had a porno made at their house I am very willing to bet that they would have their charter pulled in an instant. At the least the punishment would be more stringent than a year's probation. Reason? It could hurt the sorority. And that's a legitimate reason. It certainly could. I personally also think it's about respect. I personally know that not all sisters have the same values, but one sister's actions reflect on the whole, so that should be taken into consideration.

Here, though, I think it's still about society. Would I ever appear in a porno? No way. But do I think that in principle someone should be punished for something that isn't illegal, just considered very distasteful by those in charge? No. But that's life. The actions of one reflect badly on the whole, so action needs to be taken to reassure the public that the organization (and school) don't actually support the decision to appear in the porno. Again, society.
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Old 05-24-2007, 05:07 PM
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sigma nu has been back on campus for sometime now. but this happened so long ago, no one at ASU's greek community ever talks about it. although it did do irreparable greek life here.
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