Thong-checking administrator demoted

[Kevin]

Teacher pay varies from state to state. A lot of ya'll live in states where they are well paid. Here in Oklahoma I believe we're number 48 in the country. I believe starting pay is in the low 20's. And no cost of living is not that much lower here.

[fuzzylogicAG]

Yeah, yeah...3 months off in the summer, extra days during the week. Really, though, some teachers (the good ones) go to seminars and workshops during their time off, or they work during the summer. Some teachers, like those that teach band, work all through the summer coming up with what they are going to do during the school year. They also don't always get paid during the summer months when they're on "vacation." You can either be paid for 12 months or 9 months. They have different payment plans. All in all, as I said before, salaries depend on where you live, and there isn't a lot of upward movement in teaching, unless you want to be an administrator. That's where the money is. $26,000 can be a lot of money, but after taxes, all the dental plans and whatnot that they take out of your paycheck it's really not a lot.

AND teachers do start earlier...some show up at 7 or 7:30 in the morning and work til around 4 with about 30 minutes for lunch. Just because they're not teaching during all that time doesn't mean they're sitting around on their asses doing nothing.

I also just realized that this thread has taken a big turn...Fire the thong-checking administrator! Haha

[Corbin Dallas]

are they doing 40 hours of work during their "time off" that they're doing other stuff? i'll agree, the GOOD teachers put in a lot more work than the minimum, but so does a GOOD fill in the blank i know engineers that work 90 hour weeks. with a work week like that, they're making minimum wage! granted they don't do this all the time, but it's not uncommon to have 60 hour weeks regularly. also, 7-4 is only an 8.5 hour day with the lunch taken out. granted that's more, it's not a huge deal.

like i said before though, i'm not saying teachers don't get what they deserver. there are a lot of teachers though that do little, and want more money/benefits for it.

[DeltAlum]

Kind of reminds me of when I was in High School and mini-skirts were just coming on the scene. The vice principal used to make the girls get down on their knees, and if the skirt didn't reach the floor, they were sent home to change.

This administrator in question made a very dumb mistake.

As for salaries -- my wife taught high school for a number of years, and you couldn't pay me enough to put up with the crap that teachers get in some schools. Not only from the kids, but from the administration.

[Kevin]

Sounds familiar.. at my old HS teachers would hold a dollar bill above the girl's knees and if the skirt was too short they had these atrocious, nasty things they had to wear for the rest of the day (to embarass them and make the behavior undesirable)

[AlphaChiGirl]

That woman sounds like a sicko. Either that, or she is over-worked and simply overreacted.

I've always really hated the "those who can't do, teach" comment people use as an insult. Most of the people who say snarky things like that don't have what it takes to be a teacher. My high school teachers ranged from stellar to stupid, but I have to think about what they sacrificed for us that those in other careers don't. While we were preparing for our IB/AP exams, my teachers would devote nights and weekends tutoring us, giving us extra tests, and paying for books and supplies OUT OF THEIR OWN MONEY. During the summer, a lot of the teachers are club/class advisers, teach summer classes, and spend the same 8 hours in the classroom as they do when class is in session.

Also, when one factors "median teacher salary", you're usually averaging ALL teachers, whether they're starting fresh out of college or have a Ph.D (as is what some of my math teachers did to make extra money). Is 50K really that good for someone with a doctorate in education? Where I live (which is hardly a poor/innercity area), bachelors' level teachers start out at about 35 a year, which is nothing when you consider the cost of a house.