"An accused child pornographer shoves a former crack dealer out of the #1 spot..."

[skywalker20_99]

Originally posted by aprilzeta
"Rra" needs to come clean. He did not answer the questions to me, plus his fidgeting didn't help. He looked like he was trying to hide something. I am a little upset that Ed bought up Aliyah, really his annulled marriage to her had nothing to do with the purpose of tonight's interview. I was shock to find out that he is married and had a couple of kids. Where have I been? Am I the only one that didn't know this?

I think it was necessary to bring up his marriage to Aaliyah. His marriage to Aaliyah demonstrate a potential pattern of behavior (it doesn't help that he continuously denied the marriage although there is legal documentation). The marriage might not be be viewed as conclusive evidence of deviant behavior in a court of law, but right now Kelly is dealing with the court of public opinion!!! I don't believe Ed Gordon intended to disrespect her (Aaliyah's) memory in anyway.

[OneOneTwo]

Originally posted by skywalker20_99


I think it was necessary to bring up his marriage to Aaliyah. His marriage to Aaliyah demonstrate a potential pattern of behavior (it doesn't help that he continuously denied the marriage although there is legal documentation). The marriage might not be be viewed as conclusive evidence of deviant behavior in a court of law, but right now Kelly is dealing with the court of public opinion!!! I don't believe Ed Gordon intended to disrespect her (Aaliyah's) memory in anyway.

I have to respectfully disagree with this statement because Aaliyah is irrelavent to the current case. Plus, SHE is not here to confirm or deny any claims to marriage any more and I think SHE would be the best one to say whether or not SHE had any relationship with the man. Everyone else (besides RKelly) is going on speculation. Besides, papers can be forged you know. I do agree that Ed Gordon did not intend to disrespect Aaliyah but I do agree with Rra on this one that his relationship (professional, personal or both) is still hard to talk about because very few people who were ever in her "inner" circle can talk about their close moments with her. Some are still in denial that she is gone.

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[AKA2D '91]

I disagree. The marriage of Aaliyah and Kelly is relevant. Like Gordon stated, there are official documents that show they were married, therefore Aaliyah does not need to say anything. The documents speak for themselves. (May she RIP, but let's be real about it!)

At the time of the brief marriage, Aaliyah was a MINOR. She was underaged. How is that NOT relevant to a case where he is being accused of having sex with underaged children? It shows a PATTERN. The pattern that he likes to "keep company" with underaged kids. Therefore, it is a possibilty more than not, that it was him on the tape.

It takes 2 to tango. I still find there to be a problem with the girls,too they knew what they were doing.

[prayerfull]

I agree completely with Soror AKA2D'91 - his marriage to Aaliyah is 110% relevant because it goes to prove that a pattern a pedophilia. He went so far as to "marry" Aaliyah to lure her into whatever the relationship entailed. Now, I do appreciate that he declined to comment on the details of that relationship, but facts are facts and legal documents prove that.

I also agree that the girls knew exactly what they were doing. I highly doubt that they were virgins!

He hasn't seen the tape? OK! He was lying through his teeth. Ed had him squirming.

HC he was sounding just like Gary Condit in his interview with Connie Chong.

HC he repeated over and over..."I'm not perfect..I've made mistakes in my life...I've sinned"

I don't believe Gary Condit for one second nor do I believe R Kelly, OJ or Robert Blake.

[TLAW]

I must agree with those that say his marriage to Aaliyah is very relevant to the issue at hand. First of all, there is no question that he was married to her. Legal documentation does exist. Her parents had it nullified. Aaliyah was not being attacked, so Rra saying that he would not comment on that because she was not alive to "defend" herself did not make sense to me. It does point to a pattern of deviant behavior. I think his lawyers did a poor job of prepping him. Thus, I cannot agree more with AKA2D and Skywalker. There are legal documents proving he was married to Aaliyah, and if he was crazy enough to marry a child, who knows what else he'd do?

[DST Love]

Okay, I know you all remember R. Kelly's first song out "She's got that vibe". When Aaliyah hit the scene with R. Kelly in the videos, my fiance said that he realized that at the end of the song "Vibe" where he says like, "Tonya's got it, Teresa's got it", R. Kelly says "little cute Aaliyah's got it". Now I'm not implying anything, but why was he even then talking about a little girl, at the time probably 12 years old, having that "vibe" (the song came out a couple of years before Aaliyah hit the scene at 15). That's not cute that he put her in THAT song. It's weird. If I had a song like that, I, being 25 years old, wouldn't be throwing my 15-year-old brother's friends' names in the song. But maybe that's just me.

[Urbane]

AKA2D '91, you took the words right out of my mouth. I agree that the marriage to Aaliyah continues to show a pattern of dealing with underaged girls. You got the docs of the marriage on file, the two girls that were paid off supposedly as a result of his lawyers, and now these tapes. Come on now!?!?!?... and keep in mind this is just the stuff that has surfaced. Who knows what else is out there.

I didn't see the videos but i saw a few pics.. and in several of them he's looking directly into the camera as though he's proud and really into what he's doing. Another thing that i did realize is those girls (don't think i saw the 14 year old girl) weren't shy at all. All those positions and acts... whatever!

[Nubian]

If stupid was an art, R. Kelly would win the Pulitzer. Not only was the tape made in his house, but according to Vibe, he looks at the camera SEVERAL times! He has settled a number of out of court cases due to his inclination to have sex with minors, but we are supposed to believe it was not him?! I'd like to believe he's innocent until proven guilty, but I have all the proof I need!

AND...His marriage to Aaliyah is relevant for so many reasons, which have already been stated, but to add to the previous comments, his denial of his (well documented) marriage to Aaliyah proves that he has NO PROBLEM lying in the face of overwhelming evidence, just like he is doing now. A radio show in Houston reported that a long time ago, Rra threw a stone cold TANTRUM at a press event when asked about his marriage to Aaliyah, cursing, flipping tables, the whole nine, if this isn't the behavior of a guilty man, I don't know what is.

[Riley]

It is obvious there is a pattern goin on with R. From the marriage to Aalliyah to girls he settled out with ti the current video at hand. but an intersting questing was brought up on Rus Par and Olivia Fox. Sould the girls be held accountable for thier actions? True they are minors, but I am sure they know what statutory rape is. I think the girls should undergo counseling and/or education. They obviously were willing participants since some of them got paid but i think they should be held responsible to a certain extent.

[exquizit]

I keep replaying the interview in my mind, and he repeatedly said "I have a problem that I'm working on within myself" One could only take that as "I have a problem with loving to take advantage of young impressionable girls". Rev. Meeks is supposed to make it all better for him? :Confused:

I agree with everyone here that Aaliyah's marriage to him is important.

I think it's really sad that he avoided all the questions and decided to beat around the bush, but as someone said on the radio today..."I would have had an old school pointer that teachers use and brought out the tape saying, Look this guy has a tattoo on his right arm. I have a tattoo on my left" or something to that affect because If you're not guilty of something, you want to review all the so called evidence and find every flaw in it.

[pretty_girl82]

Originally posted by DST Love
Here's why my fiance and I know he's lying. Ed Gordon asked him has he ever made sex tapes. "Robert" answered that there are a lot of bad things he's done in his life. Okay fine. Then Ed Gordon asked him that if he has ever made ANY sex tapes how can he be so sure that this is not one of those tapes. "Robert" never answered that question. He went all around it.

If he made sex tapes, fine. But one would think he would want to watch it because it could very well be a tape of him and another consenting adult as opposed to a child. And if that's the case, then he could've cleared this up a long time ago.

But oh no, he won't watch the tape because he knows it's not him even though it could be him. C'mon "Robert" make a little sense, please.

But again, I believe he's straight up lying.

And as far as the Aaliyah thing. I'm sure her family and he are sick of it. However, if you didn't marry her when she was a child, then you would just say you didn't and leave it at that. If you didn't marry a child, how could her family be upset by a simple "no we never married" and then next question.

And again..., lying.

Girl you ain't lying. I am from Chicago and my girls went to Kenwood, where he attended, H.S and he was hitting on the freshman and sophmore. She was a senior at the time and she said he wouldn't even look at the seniors. Hey he was even about to cry at the end thats why Ed said they were going to continue tomorrow. He said that he was even going to change back to gospel...heard it all before . R. Kelly shut it up you are busted dude so pay the price and get over it.

[Urbane]

BET aired the interview again this evening so I watched the entire thing. I'ma be honest... i feel asleep last night in the middle of it. I thought i was tired... that interview was slam BORING!!! He avoided every single question. Why show up and sit down in front of a camera if you gonna dance around and not answer jack! All those who said his lawyer failed to properly prep him were correct.

I want to say that he slipped up for a sec and said he saw the tape when he was trying to avoid a question... now, i may be hearing things. But i'ma just put that out there... (in my Olivia Fox voice)

[ClassyLady]

I don't think that his marriage to Aaliyah is relevant and I respect R. Kelly for not even speaking on it.

First, there are no official documents as was stated earlier. The only reason why people found out about the alleged marriage is because a reporter at Vibe Magazine has a "copy" of the marriage license. The copy is all that anyone has and it doesn't take much to forge a copy.

Second, at the time when R. Kelly and Aaliyah got married, she was sixteen. She would have been old enough to get married with her parents' permission. So, if the marriage really did take place, it would have been legal. R. Kelly can always argue that he fell in love with her and did what was legally required of him to be with her.

I'm not saying he's right, but I don't think that this is relevant to the current case. It hasn't been proven and is still, at this point, just a rumor.

I haven't seen the tape and I really don't care to. But, I do agree wholeheartedly with the point that Ed Gordon was trying to make. If he does have sex tapes, then how does he know that he's not the person in this one.

I think that R. Kelly has seen the tape and knows exactly who is in it. If the girl was underage, he has probably paid her and her family off by now. He said that she and her family deny that it is her. They probably got their money and her parents don't want their name dragged through the mud.

[AKA2D '91]

16 or not...it's still UNDER the LEGAL age of 18. She was still a MINOR, consent or not! She was NOT an adult.

If they had the parent's permission, why was it annulled? They could have easily gotten married AGAIN when she turned 18. But noooooo, all ties with Kelly were "cut". What's up with that, if everything was so peachy keen between the two (Kelly and the Haughtons)?

[Virtual Violet]

Originally posted by AKA2D '91
16 or not...it's still UNDER the LEGAL age of 18. She was still a MINOR, consent or not! She was NOT an adult.

If they had the parent's permission, why was it annulled? They could have easily gotten married AGAIN when she turned 18. But noooooo, all ties with Kelly were "cut". What's up with that, if everything was so peachy keen between the two (Kelly and the Haughtons)?

They were able to have the marriage annulled because Aaliyah allegedly misrepresented her true age when getting the marriage license and she didn't have her parent's permission. So under the law, the marriage was false, and thus never existed.