BGLO and GLO

[IotaNet]

To steal a line from Sean Connery (in Rising Sun) and Bill Murray (in Space Jam), "Perhaps I can be of some assistance ..."

Some months ago, I created a thread that might be helpful to this discussion. Take a look a look at But why are the NPHC groups so ... different???

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IotaNet
Iota Phi Theta Fraternity, Inc.
Alpha Eta Chapter, Spring, 1980

Kappa Kappa Psi Honorary Band Fraternity
Zeta Nu Chapter, Spring, 1979

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[PsiU_EN]

this year for greek week Phi Beta Sigma, a BGLO, were our partners for greek week along with ATO and ZTA. they were cool and came to a party we threw for our greek week partners.

[LeslieAGD]

mdstudent: now that was a well written and effective post! however, I would rather you had said that BGLOs are very active after graduation and not stated that other GLOs are not. I can't speak for any other GLO, but AGD has many alumnae and junior circle chapters to keep members active and "in the loop" after graduation.

MeezDiscreet: yes, the eye rolling really does bother some of us, as it is uncalled for. We here on GreekChat appriciate when non-Greeks come on and add to our "environment," but not when they simply stir up trouble and piss off other members. so please respect this forum and grow up!

[12dn94dst]

ok, now that we're well aware of what the "problem" is, how about we list some ways to "solve" it?

[MeezDiscreet]

Originally posted by LeslieAGD:
MeezDiscreet: yes, the eye rolling really does bother some of us, as it is uncalled for. We here on GreekChat appriciate when non-Greeks come on and add to our "environment," but not when they simply stir up trouble and piss off other members. so please respect this forum and grow up!

okay everyone, from this moment forth, you must clear all of your comments and questions with LeslieAGD first, so as not to piss her off, annoy her, bother her or stir up trouble with her. also, from now on, only the following smilies will be accepted: consequences for infraction include being told to "grow up."



LOOK, MEEZDISCREET IS A GROWN WOMAN WITH GROWN OPINIONS, VIEWS AND GROWN FINGERS THAT WILL TYPE ANY GROWN THOUGHTS SHE HAS. AND, MEEZDISCREET WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU, LESLIEAGD, COME TO HER LIKE SHE IS A GROWN WOMAN WHEN YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HER. SO, YOU RESPECT HER.

and, you might want to learn to let things go. it would save you a whole lot of frowms...


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[Cupcake]

MeezDiscreet, I was thinking the same exact thing. I feel you girl.

[LeslieAGD]

I could have easily written an angry and immature post (yes, it was immature) as you did, but I chose to be adult about it. I don't use this forum to disrespect people and fling insults and, since I'm sure you're just acting up to get attention, this is the last time I will even dignify you with a response.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by Sig624EI:
Why does every other post on here turn into someone taking a shot at someone else rather than just answering a post?

Can't we all just get along. Oh, and I am a fraternity guy, and I do like a beer now and then. :::read sarcasm:::

I like greek orgs. They are good, they are like lays chips, you can't just have one. I think having a lot of different ones is cool. I mean if we got rid of GLO's or BGLO's then why stop? Then why not get rid of them all, and we could have just one fraternity and sorority, just XYZ, that would make it easier for the GDI's... I'm sorry it's late and I must have been sipp'n some of Tom Earp's private stock.....

U crack me up! And the thing about anwering my post....if ur just gona sit there and yell at me and others because we dont know the history or BGLOs and complain about how there are so many other threads...then DONT read or DONT respond...its that easy!

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by mdstudent:
Even though this topic has been discussed many times it obviously is important enough to get the number of responses it has so far so I'll add my opinion. First, I'm sure it was just a slip of the finger, or maybe it is the way you truly feel, but why would you make a statement like you have black friends that chose to join "regular" GLO's instead of black ones? Who are those organizations "regular" to? You, the people on your campus, your friends, family? I as a young black man in college consider the 9 NPHC organizations regular. So as you see what you consider regular probably isn't the same in my book. Now, I feel that BGLO's are still needed and they serve a vital purpose not only in the black community, but in the community in general. And the truth of the matter is, GLO's and BGLO's are fundamentally different. When you become
a member of a GLO it is pretty much for your college years. You may see some frat brothers here and there but there really isn't any active participation after graduation. The exact opposite is
true of BGLO's. In fact I would venture to say from what I have seen, more work is done on the graduate level than on the undergrad level simply because you have become more mature and financially secure. If you have been around members of BGLO's you will see a deep sense of pride and commitment to their respective organizations from the moment they become members until the day they die. It is an extremely important part of who they are. It is something that ties
generations of families together. It is something that is hard to understand if you have not grown up with family members or friends who are not members. It is a bond that is unmatched by any GLO I have ever seen.If you want further elaboration on the differences I recommend you look
for the thread the distinguished brother of Iota Phi Theta Fraternity Inc. (I believe his name is IotaNet) wrote. And for that reason, I can tell you without hesitation, I as a young black college student would never and have never wanted to be a member of any organization other than one of the 5 NPHC fraternities. You may call that racist, narrow minded or you may say I have a
segregation mentality, but that is just the way I feel. The Divine 9 have been in the forefront of the struggles of not just black Americans but all Americans since their beginning, from the participation in the women’s rights in the early 20th century to the recent Florida election scandal. So when people ask why do we still need BGLO's I shake my head because if you knew the history of the organizations, what they have been doing for almost 100 years, and
the important members they have had and have now, a question like that wouldn't even enter
your mind.

Hey...sorry when I said "regular" GLOs. What I meant by that is greek orgs that arent known as BGLOs or academic ones. SOrry for the mistake

[12dn94dst]

Originally posted by 12dn94dst:
ok, now that we're well aware of what the "problem" is, how about we list some ways to "solve" it?

[CrimsonTide4]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00:
First of all, as I had said before, BGLO's rarely wear their letters. A lot of people didn't know we had them till we saw a list of Student Orgs. They are more than welcome to participate in Greek Week, but if we never see them around, how are we supposed to ask them? We don't know any of them and it's not like we are able to make the effort to. Parties are not just for Greeks. The fraternties on campus makes extremely large signs advertising their party, whether Alpha Kappa Alphas or Delta Sigma Thetas are there is beyond me. We will talk to anyone who will be social with us. Without that, we never know who they are.

I am going to attempt to help you out on your quest to achieve Inter-Greek Unity on your campus. I went to Wittenberg University same as Ideal08 and while the BGLOs were not as prominently displayed/known on campus because of numbers, we had a presence within the BLACK community on campus. From time to time we also did programs with other GLOs. For instance we had a party and speaker with the LAmbda Chis as part of Alcohol Awareness.
There are tons of opportunities to network, it is up to YOU to do it.

Here are some suggestions for those of you who would like to bridge the gap in a POSITIVE, ACTIVE manner:

1. Say you are in a class and a BLACK person is in that class, talk to them. I talked to white people all the time in class and learned a lot about them in regards to who they are and how the NPC and IFC worked.
Okay back to this conversation, ask them: ARE YOU IN A SORORITY/FRATERNITY?

A.If the answer is YES, then you say which one? What are some of your organization's/chapter's service projects? THen you in turn share what your chapter does. You might suggest a sisterhood/brotherhood service project. You can also ask if their chapter would keep your chapter informed of their events/programs,etc. and then you in turn do the same. Our chapter of DST often received mailing from the GLO chapters on campus.

B. If the answer is NO: you ask them who is a member of such BGLO orgs and ask them for contact information.

2. LOOK in your campus directory, if you have one. At Wittenberg, every org, be it GLO, BGLO, Habitat had contact information for each president of each organization.

3. Contact Greek Affairs office for contact information.

4. Attend your campus' BLACK student organizations meeting and introduce yourself and state your interest in meeting with presidents of BGLOs to again bridge the gap.

I am sure there are more than just these four ways, but I find it disheartening by the attitudes of some of you that as BGLOer's we are the ones at fault here.

Being separate does not mean isolated. Differences are a part of EVERY ASPECT of life.

[MeezDiscreet]

Originally posted by LeslieAGD:
I could have easily written an angry and immature post (yes, it was immature) as you did, but I chose to be adult about it. I don't use this forum to disrespect people and fling insults and, since I'm sure you're just acting up to get attention, this is the last time I will even dignify you with a response.

acting up? lol. trying to get attention? lol. dignify? LMAO

[Shelacious]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00:

Well, on my campus there are many black men who are a part of Delta Sigma Phi, and I totally love each of them. I don't see them for their color, I see them for their personality.

I usually don't comment on this type of topic, but I would just like to add...I initiated both a Mexican and a Vietnamese Soror in my undergraduate chapter, and while I voted for them because of their personality and what they could bring to the organization, I was also very conscious of their ethnicity. The culture in which they were brought up is as important to them as their name, their parents or their favorite ice cream. Just because they joined a predominately BGLO doesn't mean they desire to subjugate their ethnicity as a result. I totally understand what folks mean when they say they see "personality, not color", but I just assert that is not necessary to see only "personality” because their "color" (or better ethnicity), helps shape their personality, and the more one can appreciate this, the closer your relationship will often become.


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[showstopper_1908]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00:

I dont mean to judge BGLOs based on my campus. However, you say that u dont know one black social fraternity guy, and then u say funny huh? Well, on my campus there are many black men who are a part of Delta Sigma Phi, and I totally love each of them. I don't see them for their color, I see them for their personality.

That's lovely PM_Mama00, but I still don't know any.

I have read, thought and now im posting. So here's my little worthless 2 cent.

Leslie-- I love you, one of my fave AGD's even out of my own chapter. Just wanted you to know that

Ok, even though BGLO's and Predominately White, Social, whatever we all individually call them GLO's are run differently and etc,we all have one thing in common. We were started to somehow help and better society. To bring people together. So isnt it better that we EDUCATE, instead of retaliating at post we dont agree with on this board. If someone has the worng info, there is a better way of doing it, then rolling eyes or whatever. No offense to anyone, but you have to admitt that it gets annoying after awhile. Im not saying no one can use them, but lets be real now. And lets stop stereotyping each org, we get enough of that from non-greeks as it is. There are sorority sluts and beer guzzling fraternity boys in all the orgs. whether it be BGLO, GLO, HAGLO, AAGLO, etc.Ill take you to my campus and prove it. I happen to be a beer guzzling sorority girl (who happens to be Black in a NPC), and Im damn proud. However, i do handle myself in a intelligent manner.
So how about this, one way of unifying all the orgs. would be to have an educational program on them, that gives background and etc. that all greeks could attend? At my school i hear nonsense coming from both orgs. about what they have heard and thought about he other. This would prevent that.

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