Duck Dynasty

[33girl]

The funniest part of all this is how people think the programming executives at A & E actually watch, enjoy, or relate to the current programming on A & E.

[ASTalumna06]

I keep wondering why everyone wasn't yelling "Free speech!" when the whole Paula Deen thing went down. Is Robertson more likeable, and therefore, he should get a pass?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I keep wondering why everyone wasn't yelling "Free speech!" when the whole Paula Deen thing went down. Is Robertson more likeable, and therefore, he should get a pass?

Some of her supporters did try the Freedom of Speech thing just as with Chik-Fil-A. I think the Chik-Fil-A thing is more similar to the Duck Dynasty situation. Paula Deen's supporters said she was being unfairly persecuted and presumed guilty. They also said that some of the things she believes are just part of her upbringing.

Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24

As for the show itself, I would be shocked if the family does not stick together along the lines of, 'ban one of us and you ban us all" or something like that. The show is so enormously popular despite what was said, that I think other networks would be in line to pick them up should things not work out with A&E. Will it be popular on another network? Again, let the market/viewers decide.

On a different note, it bothers me a bit that this is such big news. No one would give a flip what he said if he wasn't on TV. I'd rather see more newsworthy stories--like the grossly under-reported issues of human trafficking (sex & labor) going on in the U.S., or how the government abuses its power every day and has been for decades, unnecessary excessive force from police, military benefits going down the toilet, etc.--a.k.a. real problems/issues. Or, maybe report on some feel good stories for this time of year of people helping other people/putting others first before themselves.

Just my opinion.

There was talk of the entire family no longer doing the show. We shall see

Of course we are hearing so much about this because of fame just as he was interviewed for GQ because of fame. That goes without saying. But it isn't true that no one would care if it wasn't for fame. Fewer people knowing about something doesn't mean those who do know will not respond. Non-famous people get responded to or punished everyday when they can't keep certain words and actions to themselves.

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

But it isn't true that no one would care if it wasn't for fame. Fewer people knowing about something doesn't mean those who do know will not respond. Non-famous people get responded to or punished everyday when they can't keep certain words and actions to themselves.

Point taken, but I still don't find this story being as newsworthy as it has become in light of other issues out there.

[ChioLu]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

There was talk of the entire family no longer doing the show. We shall see

One can only hope, Dr. Phil.

The Bible also preaches Love.
Maybe the Duck Dynasty folks forgot about that part.

It is ironic that people use the Bible to uphold prejudice.

[ThetaPrincess24]

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from ramifications or ruffled feathers from what you say or how you choose to say it, whether one agrees with what was said or not. This family has a show on A&E. A&E is a private corporation as far as I know. Right, wrong, ridiculous, justified, or whatever, they have the right to air or suspend whatever from their network for whatever reason they like. I really don't look at it anymore than a business decision...and with any business decision there are both positive and negative consequences to the decision.

I say let the market decide. If people want to watch or boycott the show, let the people/viewers decide. If people want to watch or boycott A&E, let the people/viewers decide the fate. It isn't like there aren't other channels out there to watch. A&E will figure out what to do later if it hurts their bottom line and likewise for the Robertson Family.

As for the show itself, I would be shocked if the family does not stick together along the lines of, 'ban one of us and you ban us all" or something like that. The show is so enormously popular despite what was said, that I think other networks would be in line to pick them up should things not work out with A&E. Will it be popular on another network? Again, let the market/viewers decide.

On a different note, it bothers me a bit that this is such big news. No one would give a flip what he said if he wasn't on TV. I'd rather see more newsworthy stories--like the grossly under-reported issues of human trafficking (sex & labor) going on in the U.S., or how the government abuses its power every day and has been for decades, unnecessary excessive force from police, military benefits going down the toilet, etc.--a.k.a. real problems/issues. Or, maybe report on some feel good stories for this time of year of people helping other people/putting others first before themselves.

Just my opinion.

[candygirl200413]

Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from ramifications or ruffled feathers from what you say or how you choose to say it, whether one agrees with what was said or not. This family has a show on A&E. A&E is a private corporation as far as I know. Right, wrong, ridiculous, justified, or whatever, they have the right to air or suspend whatever from their network for whatever reason they like. I really don't look at it anymore than a business decision...and with any business decision there are both positive and negative consequences to the decision.

I say let the market decide. If people want to watch or boycott the show, let the people/viewers decide. If people want to watch or boycott A&E, let the people/viewers decide the fate. It isn't like there aren't other channels out there to watch. A&E will figure out what to do later if it hurts their bottom line and likewise for the Robertson Family.

As for the show itself, I would be shocked if the family does not stick together along the lines of, 'ban one of us and you ban us all" or something like that. The show is so enormously popular despite what was said, that I think other networks would be in line to pick them up should things not work out with A&E. Will it be popular on another network? Again, let the market/viewers decide.

On a different note, it bothers me a bit that this is such big news. No one would give a flip what he said if he wasn't on TV. I'd rather see more newsworthy stories--like the grossly under-reported issues of human trafficking (sex & labor) going on in the U.S., or how the government abuses its power every day and has been for decades, unnecessary excessive force from police, military benefits going down the toilet, etc.--a.k.a. real problems/issues. Or, maybe report on some feel good stories for this time of year of people helping other people/putting others first before themselves.

Just my opinion.

Agree with everything you said to a T!

[*winter*]

Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24

On a different note, it bothers me a bit that this is such big news. No one would give a flip what he said if he wasn't on TV. I'd rather see more newsworthy stories--like the grossly under-reported issues of human trafficking (sex & labor) going on in the U.S., or how the government abuses its power every day and has been for decades, unnecessary excessive force from police, military benefits going down the toilet, etc.--a.k.a. real problems/issues. Or, maybe report on some feel good stories for this time of year of people helping other people/putting others first before themselves.

Just my opinion.

I agree- not to hijack but no one cares about teenage sex trafficking. Probably because the victims are mostly brown and black poor girls, and the johns are normal middle class married men...

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by *winter*

...no one cares about teenage sex trafficking.

That isn't true. I hear about it everyday. I am affiliated with organizations that discuss it and there are TV shows about it.

And those of you who want to discuss those topics need to create threads and get out of this thread.

[*winter*]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

That isn't true. I hear about it everyday. I am affiliated with organizations that discuss it and there are TV shows about it.

And those of you who want to discuss those topics need to create threads and get out of this thread.

Overall, though- the media is obsessed with this Duck Drama. It was all over all of the TVs at the gym. The media loves stuff like this. They would rather gossip about what someone said than real issues in our country. This is non-news.

JMO. I'm glad you are involved with those organizations.

[pshsx1]

I read a post from a former Facebook friend (defriended his ass quick) that explained how Christians are being discriminated against and how liberals are being racist toward white people.

lololololol

[pshsx1]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I keep wondering why everyone wasn't yelling "Free speech!" when the whole Paula Deen thing went down. Is Robertson more likeable, and therefore, he should get a pass?

Also, it's different when a man says it versus when a woman says it.

Paula Deen says something racist, she's a bigot and a bitch.

Duck dude says something, he's a champion of morals and truth.

:|

[whiteviolet]

I'm of the opinion that this entire controversy is fabricated by A&E. He'll be off the show for an episode or two, they'll have a 'Welcome back Phil' extravaganza, ratings will shoot up...

[DrPhil]

I doubt this was fabricated by A&E. That would be more stupid than the average calculated controversy. Fuck Dynasty's ratings were high enough without this silliness and religious conservatives always had their egos stroked by this show.

I hope Phil doesn't apologize and claim he doesn't really hold those beliefs. Barf.

I also hope they don't do a sensitivity training and claim he has been rehabilitated. Barf.

He needs to stick to his story and let A&E handle it however they choose. Maybe another network will pick it up. Their merchandise have not been abandoned by stores.

[DrPhil]

I was referring to the phrase "he who is without sin cast the first stone" that was quoted in the comments section of that article.

As for Phil's literal interpretation of a particular (language) translation of the Bible, and religious doctrine in general, that's another topic.