Please help the Jobless workers

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

@ the bolded - Because many of the suggestions aren't necessarily new or groundbreaking. Lots of folks have applied (or attempted to apply) these techniques, with little or no success. Then, they're told "well, you're not trying hard enough" -- that's a pretty big slap in the face.

Exactly. And don't have the luxury of being picky about the jobs we apply for. Also, it's shocking that we're down because we're unemployed.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I had several different resumes. My main 2 were bank/financial-focused and marketing-focused (that's where the bulk of my experience lies). Of course, when I was applying to a banking or marketing job, I'd use the appropriate resume.

I've never used the same resume twice. I don't fabricate anything but I tailor it to whatever Company or job I'm applying for to make it POP!

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I've never used the same resume twice. I don't fabricate anything but I tailor it to whatever Company or job I'm applying for to make it POP!

Interesting.

I always created unique cover letters, but the resumes were industry-specific, not company-specific.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

@ the bolded - Because many of the suggestions aren't necessarily new or groundbreaking.

Neither are a lot of things that a lot people are clueless about. Job training and job skills programs exist for a reason. You all may not need them (or they may not have worked for you) but you all aren't the only people reading this thread.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Lots of folks have applied (or attempted to apply) these techniques, with little or no success.

And folks have applied these techniques with great success. What's the point?

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Then, they're told "well, you're not trying hard enough" -- that's a pretty big slap in the face.

So, did the unemployed people in this thread assume that tone?

[IrishLake]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I've never used the same resume twice. I don't fabricate anything but I tailor it to whatever Company or job I'm applying for to make it POP!

If I'm applying within my field, my resume doesn't really differ much between different companies (if they're consulting that is, I use a different one if applying to regulatory agencies), but my cover letter is made from scratch every time, based on the job description and company.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Neither are a lot of things that a lot people are clueless about. Job training and job skills programs exist for a reason. You all may not need them (or they may not have worked for you) but you all aren't the only people reading this thread.

We're not the only ones reading, but we are the only ones sharing our stories.

And folks have applied these techniques with great success. What's the point?

One size doesn't fit all (not necessarily directed at you).

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Interesting.

I always created unique cover letters, but the resumes were industry-specific, not company-specific.

I'd include the specific "catch" words in my resume ( If they applied of course) used in the actual job posting. It works, especially if the HR uses Resumix or just scans over the resume.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Exactly. And don't have the luxury of being picky about the jobs we apply for.

Well, it is good that you applied for every possible job that a human could possibly apply for regardless of other factors. There's always a chance of getting hired, even at the place we least expect.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

One size doesn't fit all (not necessarily directed at you).

Are you serious? Did you really think that needed to be stated regardless of who it is directed to? Aren't there things that you suggest to people regarding various topics that won't work for everyone?

As my posts stated, people who have chosen to try those approaches did so without knowing whether it would be successful. I know people who did not find success in those approaches but that doesn't void those who did find success.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Are you serious? Did you really think that needed to be stated regardless of who it is directed to? Aren't there things that you suggest to people regarding various topics that won't work for everyone?

As my posts stated, people who have chosen to try those approaches did so without knowing whether it would be successful. I know people who did not find success in those approaches but that doesn't void those who did find success.

@ the bolded - You must have forgotten what forum we're posting on.

I know for a fact that you understand, but (as you've stated) we're not the only ones reading this thread

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

@ the bolded - You must have forgotten what forum we're posting on.

I know for a fact that you understand, but (as you've stated) we're not the only ones reading this thread

Okay, so your point was to reiterate something that I already stated, which is that people who choose to do so can seek the opportunity and see what happens--it will work for some and not for others.

Excellent.

So, like I was saying, people who choose to do so/haven't already done so can see if having different types of resume' work and if they are able to market their skills to find employment outside of a traditional job setting (while you are seeking longterm employment). This not only can potentially make some money but it can potentially expand your network and assist (in some cases, getting you a job) in the job search. Good luck to all.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Well, it is good that you applied for every possible job that a human could possibly apply for regardless of other factors. There's always a chance of getting hired, even at the place we least expect.

Take it elsewhere.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by Kevin

As dire as it is, that does not explain or justify why anyone thinks they deserve compensation from the government (from the taxpayers) when the government doesn't even really have that money to pay them. Sometimes folks' houses get foreclosed when they lose jobs. Sometimes they have to move, declare bankruptcy, etc.

You are not entitled to a job which pays $x simply because you are qualified for the job you used to have.

And this is where our basic philosophies differ and will never reach congruency, Kevin. I see value to soceity in having people stay in their homes rather than be homeless, in having them be able to purchase basic goods such as food and toilet paper in an effort to keep THOSE industries from hurting more than they are, in having them still be able to utilize health care so that the health care system doesn't collapse under the pressure of providing so much free care that they can't function anymore, etc. Just as there is societal value in educating all of our citizens rather than picking and choosing which ones "deserve" to be educated, I see value to society as a whole to prevent blight and crime through providing assistance to those who are temporarily down in their luck due to forces that were not in their control whatsoever.

I also think that we, as human beings, have a responsibility to prevent harm from coming to other human beings. I think we will do better as a society if we unite and help people pull themselves back up rather than kick them when they're down. I believe that the vast majority of these people will, once again, become contributing members of society if they are given some aide for now, which will only increase our tax base in the future and make us better able to pay off that debt.

You cannot find a job without a home address or a phone number. There is no way for an employer to contact you.

[Kevin]

Sometimes collapse and reorganization of the economy is inevitable. Attempting to prop it up with free money only delays the collapse and probably will end up making it worse.

And foreclosure = homeless? Quit being so melodramatic. Detroit is probably no different than most places -- you'll be able to live in your home rent free while the foreclosure action languishes in the overworked (and underappreciated) court system. And after that, there are a plethora of rental properties and dirt cheap foreclosures out there--probably even stuff available to folks with questionable credit.

As far as aid now increasing our tax base in the future, I'm not sure how that works. I mean, if you lose all of your stuff and then have to buy all new stuff once you're employed again at an acceptable level, won't that economic activity actually create more taxable events than you sitting in your house drawing unemployment indefinitely? I don't really see from a tax standpoint how society stands to gain anything at all by propping up an area or an economy which is going to simply collapse as soon as the support is withdrawn.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Take it elsewhere.

No.