Entire Sr. Class of All Male, African-Amer. Public School Accepted to 4 Year Colleges - Page 3

DaemonSeid · #31 03-23-2010, 01:54 PM

uh...tell her how you really feel!

knight_shadow · #32 03-23-2010, 02:00 PM

I knew I'd love this thread when I saw who the last few posters were.

Signed,
DrPhil's Side Minion

als463 · #33 03-23-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Oh no...I know how to read and no I DO NOT agree that anyone SHOULD get pushed thru because of their skin color.

That's a bad assumption on your part if that is what you believe.

What do you think happened here? I think it is sad that we can't just say that an entire class of public school students has been accepted to a 4 year college. Why do we have to push that it is an "all-male, african-american" group of students.

I don't know many schools (public, to be honest) that have 100% of their students go off to college. Because we phrase it the way it has been phrased, we are making note that we don't think "all-male, african americans" from a public school can make it to college. Why does it have to be a race thing? Why does it have to be a gender thing? If it was an "all-female, caucasian" group of students from a public school, no one would bat an eyelash. Why is that?

By harping on the age and gender, we are saying that african-american males are destined for worse. I get that a great percentage of them go to prison or join gangs (from what the article says) but, that is their own fault. If you end up in prison or join a gang, it isn't because of your race, it is because you made those choices.

Good for these young boys, but I hope they got through school on their own accord and not because the school pushed them through, just so they could say this.

DaemonSeid · #34 03-23-2010, 02:13 PM

Clearly you don't have any understanding of what being an African American male is like and why JUST ONE going to college is indeed an achievement.

Maybe if you took a look at statistics from the past 20 or more years, there is clearly a connection to Black males going to and graduating from college in low numbers while steadily increasing the prison populations and cemetaries before reaching age 25.

You can teach anyone to read but can you teach them to UNDERSTAND what they read?

knight_shadow · #35 03-23-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by als463

What do you think happened here? I think it is sad that we can't just say that an entire class of public school students has been accepted to a 4 year college. Why do we have to push that it is an "all-male, african-american" group of students.

I don't know many schools (public, to be honest) that have 100% of their students go off to college. Because we phrase it the way it has been phrased, we are making note that we don't think "all-male, african americans" from a public school can make it to college. Why does it have to be a race thing? Why does it have to be a gender thing? If it was an "all-female, caucasian" group of students from a public school, no one would bat an eyelash. Why is that?

By harping on the age and gender, we are saying that african-american males are destined for worse. I get that a great percentage of them go to prison or join gangs (from what the article says) but, that is their own fault. If you end up in prison or join a gang, it isn't because of your race, it is because you made those choices.

Good for these young boys, but I hope they got through school on their own accord and not because the school pushed them through, just so they could say this.

How can you say the two phrases in bold in the same breath?

I'm not even going to address the rest of your post, as it would be pointless. Have madmax fill you in.

knight_shadow · #36 03-23-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Clearly you don't have any understanding of what being an African American male is like and why JUST ONE going to college is indeed an achievement.

Maybe if you took a look at statistics from the past 20 or more years, there is clearly a connection to Black males going to and graduating from college in low numbers while steadily increasing the prison populations and cemetaries before reaching age 25.

You can teach anyone to read but can you teach them to UNDERSTAND what they read?

Munchkin03 · #37 03-23-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by als463

In fact, I helped a kid get his GED to help him join the military. He is now serving his country. I also helped a mother of 3 get out of the "system" of Children & Youth and also get her GED. She is now a student at a local community college. Can you say the same?

You want a cookie? OMFG I JUST INSPECTED A BUILDING SO STUFF WOULDN'T FALL OFF OF IT AND KILL PEOPLE! Let me tell the Internetz!

DrPhil · #38 03-23-2010, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by als463

I think you agree that people SHOULD get pushed through based on their skin color.

No.

This is an unsurprisingly dumb assertion.

I was going to wonder how the hell this thread ended up where it ended up. Now I see how.

DrPhil · #39 03-23-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg

I'm adding a new point:
We all know you're a self important bitch. You still have a lot of learning to do about phrasing your opinions in such a way that you won't get such an immediate and negative thought. If you don't care about that, or prefer to bitch about everyone hating you because you "speak the truth," then you can be on your merry way - just be aware that it's your choice to make.

Well, damn, okay then.

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I knew I'd love this thread when I saw who the last few posters were.

Signed,
DrPhil's Side Minion

LOL--and I'm not to blame for the turn of this thread. I'm just riding on coattails after the fact.

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Originally Posted by als463

What do you think happened here? I think it is sad that we can't just say that an entire class of public school students has been accepted to a 4 year college. Why do we have to push that it is an "all-male, african-american" group of students.

I don't know many schools (public, to be honest) that have 100% of their students go off to college. Because we phrase it the way it has been phrased, we are making note that we don't think "all-male, african americans" from a public school can make it to college. Why does it have to be a race thing? Why does it have to be a gender thing? If it was an "all-female, caucasian" group of students from a public school, no one would bat an eyelash. Why is that?

By harping on the age and gender, we are saying that african-american males are destined for worse. I get that a great percentage of them go to prison or join gangs (from what the article says) but, that is their own fault. If you end up in prison or join a gang, it isn't because of your race, it is because you made those choices.

Good for these young boys, but I hope they got through school on their own accord and not because the school pushed them through, just so they could say this.

There's a lot of inconsistency in this post.

No, African American males are not destined for worse. People confuse disproportionate involvement in crime, lack of education, and unemployment to imply destiny. For instance, the average African American male is not involved in crime. Therefore, being an African American male is not a "plight" nor is it ridden with hardtimes and negativity.

With that said, personal choices matter but it's more than just personal choices. We are talking about aggregate effects here. But, I sense that I'm typing to a brick wall right now.

LatinaAlumna · #40 03-23-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by als463

I just hope you don't get banned. Please watch certain terms you use or people may get upset.

Way to feed the troll AND stand up against racism in one shot!

Wait till he finds out you're "Latina"!

BluPhire · #41 03-23-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna

Way to feed the troll AND stand up against racism in one shot!

Wait till he finds out you're "Latina"!

Well in another thread he did say he wanted to open the border for Mexicans and send the Africans back to Africa, so in whatever incarnation he returns in he probably won't have a problem with her.

epchick · #42 03-23-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna

Wait till he finds out you're "Latina"!

She's not Latina.....she's "Latino" lol

knight_shadow · #43 03-23-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna

"Latina"!

You -- Corner, please.

K,thx.

DaemonSeid · #44 03-23-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by als463

Other than that, if you consider people "lazy" and not necessarily the "n-word" you might get more people to listen. I doubt that, though, with some of these people.

^^^^ awww...it's too easy.

I will pass on this one.

LatinaAlumna · #45 03-23-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

You -- Corner, please.

K,thx.

What?!

I mean, I think she does her best in life to convince folks that she's not, but she did admit to it once. You would think that being from a marginalized group herself, she would either 1) not feed this troll or 2) feed the troll by actually taking a stand against his remarks.