kappa sigma at fgcu?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DEVODUDE

knight_shadow;1873719....IIRC, that clause states that IFC can't keep members out, but the campus can.

If State University recognizes an NIC group and it petitions for membership in IFC, they must allow the group to join.

OK, so how would that work for a fraternity that is not a member of the NIC??? Can they (fraternity) apply for university recognition as an independent National Fraternity and be placed in the same category with Service & Professional Fraternities/Societies???

Well, that clause is in the NIC by-laws, so it wouldn't affect any group that's not a member of NIC.

IFC is not the only governing council that can exist on a campus. A non-NIC organization can get university recognition and petition for membership in a different council (NALFO, NPHC, MGC, etc, depending on the type of group).

[DEVODUDE]

knight_shadow;1873733]Well, that clause is in the NIC by-laws, so it wouldn't affect any group that's not a member of NIC.

IFC is not the only governing council that can exist on a campus. A non-NIC organization can get university recognition and petition for membership in a different council (NALFO, NPHC, MGC, etc, depending on the type of group).

OK, so I understand that Non- NIC Fraternities & Non-NPC Sororities do have other groups/councils they can apply for recognition, depending on the compostion of their organization. That is good to know that they have that option. THANK YOU for the information.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

IFC is not the only governing council that can exist on a campus. A non-NIC organization can get university recognition and petition for membership in a different council (NALFO, NPHC, MGC, etc, depending on the type of group).

But if it's a general social fraternity, IFC is likely the proper fit, not, say, NALFO or MGC. I'd hazard a guess that most, if not all, IFCs can at least theoretically include non-NIC members.

As noted earlier in this thread, Kappa Sigma, Phi Delta Theta and Phi Sigma Kappa all left the NIC, yet their chapters are all likely to be IFC. Lots of fraternities have left NIC over the years (and usually come back later), but their chapters have remained part of campus IFCs.

Meanwhile, my fraternity has never been a member of NIC, but many of our chapters are part of their campus IFC.

[FSUZeta]

frank, that's fine if you don't want to have socials with the sororities, participate in intramurals(as a fraternity team), greek week, and any other things greek affiliated.

touche' jenny!

[rex in effect]

I totally agree FSUZeta. FIJI Frank is out of his mind.

[xtreme17618]

Ok, where to begin. I just found this thread today and I am actually a part of the Kappa Sigma colony of Fort Myers. We are trying to get on campus but there is alot of opposition because of the route we took. We actually had a meeting with the IFC this morning and we were denied, but still soon to be the Rho Zeta Chapter. If you have any questions just lmk. Thank you for all who support us.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by xtreme17618

Ok, where to begin. I just found this thread today and I am actually apart of the Kappa Sigma colony of Fort Myers. We are trying to get on campus but there is alot of opposition because of the route we took. We actually had a meeting with the IFC this morning and we were denied, but still soon to be the Rho Zeta Chapter. If you have any questions just lmk. Thank you for all who support us.

a part

You are still soon to be the Rho Zeta Chapter? How so?

[jennyj87]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

a part

You are still soon to be the Rho Zeta Chapter? How so?

I believe because Kappa Sigma is still going to let them be a chapter, just without school or IFC recognition.....

I could be wrong.

From what I've been told, please understand this is hear say or whatever, one of the probelms with Kappa Sigma coming to FGCU was that they are not part of NIC which leads to insurance reasons. Can anyone exlpain this?

[rex in effect]

Yea. Kappa Sigma has done many non campus recognized colonies and chapters at different colleges across the country. The colonies and chapters have always ended up getting recognized by the schools in which they pursued. I can see everything getting worked out within a matter of time.

[xtreme17618]

Originally Posted by rex in effect

Yea. Kappa Sigma has done many non campus recognized colonies and chapters at different colleges across the country. The colonies and chapters have always ended up getting recognized by the schools in which they pursued. I can see everything getting worked out within a matter of time.

Yeah, hopefully this gets worked out soon. We've been at it for awhile now and we are doing anything we can to get support of the fellow students and greek life. Its just a matter of time.

[rex in effect]

Don't worry. Nationals is gonna take care of the issue. You're gonna be a brother soon. You guys just need to keep doing good things and keep a positive image in the community. This issue is also occuring at Coastal Carolina.

[K∑_PZ_AEKΔB]

Hi,

Also a member of the soon to be Rho-Zeta Chapter of the Kappa Sigma Fraternity here at Florida Gulf Coast University.
In addition to what the advisor said above, we are in pursuit of catalyzing the change to the current IFC bylaws at the University to streamline Greek growth & the benefits recieved from this. Our vision is not to "open the flood gates", but to open the gates period, and by doing so - put the ability of recognition in the hands of the prospective group.
Consider if you will for a minute how competition in all aspects of life pushes one to thrive. This same concept certainly applies to the Greek community at FGCU and any campus. Ammending the current policies and procedures to put the capacity of recognition in the hands of the students can be a relatively simple process.

If a nationally recognized interest group/colony/chapter that is unrecognized by the university & the university's IFC:

- Completes the checklist set forth by nationals (membership, GPA, community service hours, fundraising dollars per man, campus involvement, etc...).

- Is, at the least, 1/3 the size of the current largest fraternal chapter on campus.

- & shows, through presentation to the IFC, that they would be a beneficial asset to the community, the university, greek life, and the IFC.

... they should be allowed recognition, following the ideals of open expansion. Of course, the vote would be cast through the IFC delegates - but to accomplish the feats above is no simple task. While it ultimately puts the ability in the hands of those in pursuit, it also defends from "the flood gates opening". The concept, if possible to institute, would surely benefit all and draw harm to none. If possible, this is what I would personally like to see happen at Florida Gulf Coast University - with Kappa Sigma leading the way for that change.

[jennyj87]

Originally Posted by K∑_PZ_AEKΔB

Hi,

Also a member of the soon to be Rho-Zeta Chapter of the Kappa Sigma Fraternity here at Florida Gulf Coast University.
In addition to what the advisor said above, we are in pursuit of catalyzing the change to the current IFC bylaws at the University to streamline Greek growth & the benefits recieved from this. Our vision is not to "open the flood gates", but to open the gates period, and by doing so - put the ability of recognition in the hands of the prospective group.
Consider if you will for a minute how competition in all aspects of life pushes one to thrive. This same concept certainly applies to the Greek community at FGCU and any campus. Ammending the current policies and procedures to put the capacity of recognition in the hands of the students can be a relatively simple process.

If a nationally recognized interest group/colony/chapter that is unrecognized by the university & the university's IFC:

- Completes the checklist set forth by nationals (membership, GPA, community service hours, fundraising dollars per man, campus involvement, etc...).

- Is, at the least, 1/3 the size of the current largest fraternal chapter on campus.

- & shows, through presentation to the IFC, that they would be a beneficial asset to the community, the university, greek life, and the IFC.

... they should be allowed recognition, following the ideals of open expansion. Of course, the vote would be cast through the IFC delegates - but to accomplish the feats above is no simple task. While it ultimately puts the ability in the hands of those in pursuit, it also defends from "the flood gates opening". The concept, if possible to institute, would surely benefit all and draw harm to none. If possible, this is what I would personally like to see happen at Florida Gulf Coast University - with Kappa Sigma leading the way for that change.

So wait, you DO know how to properly come on campus, but you want to change it.....

See in the news cast it said you guys had no idea how to get "recognized".

Hmmmmm

[K∑_PZ_AEKΔB]

Oh, meant to update an earlier post too. Total of 30 in the colony - 12 of whom are from the original pledge class on 12/10/08. None of these 12 men were involved in any bad relations with campus involvement, greek life, or the IFC. As stated earlier, the members whom were responsible for the "bad blood" have been depledged and are no longer with our cause today.

[FGCU KappaSigma]

Kappa Sigma has been established as The Colony of Fort Myers. Unfortunity not with the school. We are getting our Charter on April 17, 2010 where we will be initiated into Kappa Sigma as Brothers.