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Old 10-24-2008, 02:58 PM
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Telling the truth is the way of the cougar.
I have to tell you, 90% of the time, I completely agree with you. Then you bring up something which just makes you look bad. Leave the cougar out of this, please. We both know how you (all) came about that phrase.

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B-A-R-A-C-K. I know the campaign has only been going on for 2 years, but soon you'll get it!
I doubt it. Those who have criticized me for mentioning that I have biracial relatives should realize that, to me, it's his ideology, not his race, which gives me nightmares.

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We know. You would have liked Obama but for those comments, right?
See above.

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And Pittsburgh's crime rate seems to outpace the rest of the U.S. (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07156/791606-53.stm) which is interesting. Also, this TV station is doing a special on crime in Pittsburgh (http://newpittsburghcourieronline.co...nce/Page1.html) because it's on the rise and the city is on pace to have their highest murder rate ever (http://ydr.inyork.com/ci_10666736) which is also sort of interesting given the very low crime.
This I didn't know. Thank you for correcting me.

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A crazy College Republican desperate for attention and wanting to help the campaign by making it more about race and less about issues? If Ms. Todd was so familiar with the area, why was she Twittering away instead of not being on the phone so she could be aware of her surroundings?

Shame on her for lying.
And I agree with you completely here - except that she didn't know that area well. She had been here a week. Pittsburgh streets are not exactly easy to figure out. I can't find my way around Bloomfield!

Refined Diva, that link doesn't mention a retraction. NOT that I think this is on the up and up any more! Here it is.

And those of you who are reading this thread today for the first time should realize that the tone of the media LAST NIGHT, when it was first posted, was very, very different.
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Old 10-24-2008, 03:14 PM
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I doubt it. Those who have criticized me for mentioning that I have biracial relatives should realize that, to me, it's his ideology, not his race, which gives me nightmares.
The point is you are spelling his name wrong. I think that was an honest mistake when he started running because it certainly isn't as easy to spell as Joe or John or Sarah, but this late in the game it should no longer be an issue for someone who is politically savvy, which I think you probably are.

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And I agree with you completely here - except that she didn't know that area well. She had been here a week. Pittsburgh streets are not exactly easy to figure out. I can't find my way around Bloomfield
Sure, big cities are hard to get around. That's why when most rational people get lost they don't Twitter about thinking they are on the wrong side of town, they call somebody who can help them find their way out! Or, instead of using their crackberry to Twitter, they use it to pull up a map. I got lost in my own teensy hometown canvassing the other day, but instead of randomly Twittering about it, I called campaign HQ. I think that's what any sane staffer would do.

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Old 10-24-2008, 03:17 PM
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The point is you are spelling his name wrong. I think that was an honest mistake when he started running because it certainly isn't as easy to spell as Joe or John or Sarah, but this late in the game it should no longer be an issue for someone who is politically savvy, which I think you probably are.
His new first name is going to be President anyway, so why try to learn how to spell Barack?

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Old 10-24-2008, 03:21 PM
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His new first name is going to be Comrade anyway, so why try to learn how to spell Barack?
FTFY.
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Old 10-24-2008, 03:36 PM
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FTFY.
Not quite! Calling him "Brother Obama" has a better ring to it, don't you think? Not only does it connect him to younger styles of Communism, it also increases his street credibility among the churchgoing African-American populace.
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Old 10-24-2008, 03:39 PM
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Not quite! Calling him "Brother Obama" has a better ring to it, don't you think? Not only does it connect him to younger styles of Communism, it also increases his street credibility among the churchgoing African-American populace.
But prior to O'Connor sitting on the Supreme Court (first woman) the justices referred to each other as "Brother ______". I wouldn't want to give such a wholly unqualified, inexperienced communist as Comrade Obama a false sense of worthiness by associating him with great jurists through his naming convention.
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Old 10-24-2008, 03:42 PM
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But prior to O'Connor sitting on the Supreme Court (first woman) the justices referred to each other as "Brother ______". I wouldn't want to give such a wholly unqualified, inexperienced communist as Comrade Obama a false sense of worthiness by associating him with great jurists through his naming convention.
Ehhh, who remembers that?

You know, by calling Barack "Brother Obama," you could connect him to Pol Pot, which was one of the worst Communist leaders. I mean, no one beats Stalin, but I seriously had nightmares in Cambodia because of the documentaries I watched about Pol Pot.
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Old 10-24-2008, 03:54 PM
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Sure, big cities are hard to get around. That's why when most rational people get lost they don't Twitter about thinking they are on the wrong side of town, they call somebody who can help them find their way out! Or, instead of using their crackberry to Twitter, they use it to pull up a map. I got lost in my own teensy hometown canvassing the other day, but instead of randomly Twittering about it, I called campaign HQ. I think that's what any sane staffer would do.
I agree with you about the Twittering, but in Honeychile's defense Pittsburgh it particularly tricky to get around (lots of one-way streets, general asshattery in city planning).

I always knew that if I could find Beechwood Blvd or Shady Ave I could make it home - the question would be whether I was going in the correct direction on either - they're a couple of the longest, most winding streets in the city.
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Old 10-24-2008, 06:07 PM
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Fox News VP: If McCain Worker 'Mutilation' Story Is a Hoax His Campaign Is 'Over'

It had drawn wide local and national -- even political attention, with the McCain and Obama campaigns weighing in -- but now the Ashley Todd story has fallen apart. Police in Pittsburgh have now declared the tale a hoax and the woman, who has confessed, now faces charges for her deed.

Earlier today, John Moody, executive vice president at Fox News, commented on his blog there that "this incident could become a watershed event in the 11 days before the election. If Ms. Todd's allegations are proven accurate, some voters may revisit their support for Senator Obama, not because they are racists (with due respect to Rep. John Murtha), but because they suddenly feel they do not know enough about the Democratic nominee.

"If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain's quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting."

He titled his posting: "Moment of Truth." Indeed.

It started yesterday afternoon with Matt Drudge screaming at the top of his site this afternoon in red type -- but no siren -- that a Pittsburgh campaign worker for McCain, age 20, had been viciously attacked and the letter "B" carved into her face, presumably by a Barack Obama fan. Her name, it soon emerged, was Ashley Todd and she had come to Pittsburgh from College Station, Texas, to help out.

It started to appear overblown (Drudge downgraded it to smaller, black type) as the police noted that it seemed to be a robbery ($60) and she did not seek medical attention. But later press reports said she would visit a hospital, Sarah Palin and maybe John McCain had reportedly called her and Obama has condemned the alleged assault, although McCain/Obama angle to story not yet confirmed.

Still later, conservative columnist Michelle Malkin, and some others, grew skeptical. For one thing, the "B" was carved a little too lightly and perfectly -- and backward, as if done using a mirror. Smoking Gun probed a too-pat "Twitter" angle and Gawker and Wonkette looked at her MySpace page.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-m..._b_137522.html


well there is your 'October Surprise' heh


and what really angers me is her supposed attacker: Black Male, 6'4 200 pounds,wearing all black

Hmmmm...haven't we seen something like this before?

Yeah...Susan Smith....the Boston Couple where the guy actually shot his wife....and so on....

and...you have to love that she has a history of mental problems...
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:00 PM
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Wow....

Police: McCain volunteer made up robbery story

By JOE MANDAK, Associated Press Writer

PITTSBURGH – A McCain campaign volunteer made up a story of being robbed, pinned to the ground and having the letter "B" scratched on her face in a politically inspired attack, police said Friday.

Ashley Todd, 20-year-old college student from College Station, Texas, admitted Friday that the story was false and was being charged with making a false report to police, said Maurita Bryant, the assistant chief of the police department's investigations division. Police doubted her story from the start, Bryant said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081024/...mccain_sticker
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:04 PM
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By JOE MANDAK, Associated Press Writer

PITTSBURGH – A McCain campaign volunteer made up a story of being robbed, pinned to the ground and having the letter "B" scratched on her face in a politically inspired attack, police said Friday.

Ashley Todd, 20-year-old college student from College Station, Texas, admitted Friday that the story was false and was being charged with making a false report to police, said Maurita Bryant, the assistant chief of the police department's investigations division. Police doubted her story from the start, Bryant said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081024/...mccain_sticker
She needs to be put in an asylum somewhere... what in the hell is wrong with people?
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:11 PM
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On another note, the last sentence in the article reminds me of the conversation that has been going on in this thread about Pittsburgh crime...
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:15 PM
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She needs to be put in an asylum somewhere... what in the hell is wrong with people?
According to the article, there are some questions about how mentally stable she is:

'Bryant said somebody charged with making a false report would typically be cited and sent a summons. But because police have concerns about Todd's mental health, they are consulting with the Allegheny County District Attorney."

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Old 10-24-2008, 07:25 PM
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Political Karma Will Get You in the End

With the news that Ashley Todd lied about that whole "I was mugged and beaten because I support McCain" story, our good friends at Gawker reminded us of the tale of Justin Zatkoff. Back in 2006, Zatkoff invented a story that he was beaten up because of his political views after a Michigan College Republicans meeting.

Turns out Zatkoff made the whole thing up and was just beaten up by his friends. Ooops!
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Old 10-24-2008, 08:22 PM
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It seems like one heck of a conspiracy theory that this woman would be the public face of some elaborate set-up by the McCain campaign, or the "October Surprise."

And please, let's not try to say that this woman represents all Republicans, or even all McCain voters. Ugh, what a mess...

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