University of Tulsa puts fraternity row on probation

[LaneSig]

^^ I quoted the wrong post. I meant to quote CB's post about UF ATO and Phi Delt. I was just adding in useless trivia about a similar incident at Mizzou.

[Kevin]

Unless your school is attending meetings to get a headcount, I don't see why a group couldn't just ignore the school's edict and initiate whomever they want to, then only report 15 or however many pledges per semester until the restrictions go away or until things even out.

I'm not aware of HQs and schools comparing notes as to who has been initiated and pledged, so I don't really see why a group couldn't just keep two sets of books.

Not that I would ever advocate such a thing. That would be wrong.

[banditone]

This is ridiculous, and I can't see how they would "reduce a class by a certain percentage". The University has already screwed up rush from what I am hearing, so this crap wouldn't surprise me.

I am so glad I don't go to school these days; I'd be put on probation, kicked out of school, put in jail, etc.

We are actually in talks with the University at this time about getting our chapter re-activated. This crap makes me want to wait it out a bit till they come to their senses (if they come to their senses).

[annabella]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

Mizzou did this to either ATO or Delta Upsilon at one point. They were not allowed to take any pledges for 1 year.

ATO was allowed to take pledges, but they weren't allowed to live in the house.

DU was allowed to take pledges, but their status was more.... New Member, SigEp style.

These sanctions were in place fall '07-spring '08 ish.

[ECUJacob]

Whoa whoa whoa.
Who has their handy NPC "green books"? Isn't there a rule that you CANNOT reduce a New Member class size as a punishment for breaking rules (even if they're alcohol/risk management rules)? Hopefully it won't come to that, as the GLOs will be careful this semester, but as far as I understand, Tulsa wouldn't have the authority to cut new member class sizes, anyway.

Corremt me if I'm wrong, but NPC "green books" don't apply for NIC groups. Our school can and has altered pledge class allowances over the years to punish groups for breaking laws/rules. They taken future pledge classes completely away and they've placed limits on the number of pledges they can take. To my knowledge, however, they've never done so without IFC's approval and involvement.

[BSUPhiSig'92]

Originally Posted by kchaptergphib

Whoa whoa whoa.
Who has their handy NPC "green books"? Isn't there a rule that you CANNOT reduce a New Member class size as a punishment for breaking rules (even if they're alcohol/risk management rules)?
Hopefully it won't come to that, as the GLOs will be careful this semester, but as far as I understand, Tulsa wouldn't have the authority to cut new member class sizes, anyway.

As a private university, Tulsa can pretty much do what they want in terms of punishment. The NPC rules really govern Panhellenics trying to use recruitment restrictions as punishment. The university has the power to issue whatever punishments they see fit. The only recourse would be to sue the university, and a case like this would not be a strong one.