Reality Check

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by Lightning Bug!

Maybe someone who pledged as a senior could weigh in on their rush experience? I'm just a little worried about how much the OP can get out of one year...my senior year was a whirlwind of finishing up my life on campus and figuring out what to do the next year, and I barely saw my sisters that year, even though I was living in the house. She might do better to spend a year with a service fraternity.

I am not saying this on the pretense of priciple, but out of reality. Let me preface by saying that I pledged both an NPC and a national service sorority (different schools). I can relate the level of time and effort spent as pretty equal in both sororities. Pledging a service sorority does take a reasonable time of time, work and effort. While the purposes of existance between social and service organizations do differ, and (in my experience) most of the experiences were service-oriented, it's a commitment.

To the OP: Even if your academic year didn't matter, your grades are not great, especially for a senior. If you have a 2.75 without the commitment of pledging, what will your grades look like if you take on something as time consuming as pledging in (ANY sorority)? THAT is the biggest issue I see.

Your campus culture would dictate the chances of a senior, or any PNM wihtout recs getting a bid to an NPC, but your hispanic heritage would factor nearly zero in this situation. The bottom line is you waited too long to get to the gate and didn't prepare. You said that you were interested last year but were too late, so why wouldn't you have done your homework for THIS year?

If you have a compelling story, do share it (if not with us, then at recruitment). Otherwise, remember that if there are only X number of slots compared to the number of girls rushing, most organizations can be as picky as they want. Best of luck whatever you decide.

[nittanyalum]

I'd be a little more sympathetic if you were an incoming freshman or a transfer, but a 4th year senior that just "didn't care for" the greek system her first 3 years at a competitive greek school.... I dunno, just doesn't sound like a good match.

[lillady85]

I'm going to go ahead and say this regardless if no one agrees. Have you looked at other sororities, as in, non-NPC sororities? I say this because as someone who is Hispanic as well, I didn't know about NPC but I did learn about Latina Sororities and NPHC sororities beforehand. Perhaps you would be better suited for a sorority that is not as competitive in the "getting recs" sense.

I'm not by any means saying Latina or NPHC sororities are easy to get into. But, their process is completely different AND being a senior does not affect you in your aim for membership the way it will for NPC recruitment. Whereas NPC ones will cut you due to your class rank off the bat, others will not and this is why I mention perhaps looking into others. If you can handle rejection, go for it. But like others have said, be prepared to be cut and cut hard.

I agree with Nittanyalum's statement. Perhaps you may not be a good 'match' for this type of sorority. I didn't read a reason as to "why" you are going through recruitment.

[DSTCHAOS]

Texas*princess' experience differs from that of TexasCuties and that's why it's not about Hispanic culture.

TexasCutie clearly stated the dynamics going on where she's from. It's similar to many black communities where graduating from high school is a huge feat--going to college is a God send--going Greek is not thought of or is laughed at as unrealistic. TexasCutie made the mistake of identifying her issue as a Hispanic one but it really is a subcultural issue.

She is really late on the bus with this one, however I don't think non-NPC organizations should be recommended to anyone because many of these organizations are not "last ditch efforts" for those who "want to belong to something." If she really wants to rush NPC, she will struggle to find out how to get the recs and see what she can do to make it happen in her 4th year. If it can't happen, maybe she's not meant to be in an organization at all.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Texas*princess' experience differs from that of TexasCuties and that's why it's not about Hispanic culture.

TexasCutie clearly stated the dynamics going on where she's from. It's similar to many black communities where graduating from high school is a huge feat--going to college is a God send--going Greek is not thought of or is laughed at as unrealistic. TexasCutie made the mistake of identifying her issue as a Hispanic one but it really is a subcultural issue.

She is really late on the bus with this one, however I don't think non-NPC organizations should be recommended to anyone because many of these organizations are not "last ditch efforts" for those who "want to belong to something." If she really wants to rush NPC, she will struggle to find out how to get the recs and see what she can do to make it happen in her 4th year. If it can't happen, maybe she's not meant to be in an organization at all.

TexasCutie and I grew up in similar sounding cities so the dynamics of the city has NOTHING to do with rushing. I can understand if that was her logic as a freshman, because I went through it as a freshman (not knowing anything...yada yada yada). The fact is that TexasCutie is a 4th year senior, which gave her years to figure out about Greek Life. Even if she didn't know anyone personally who could give her recs, she could have gone to the Greek Life advisor for assistance. Man, I even contacted the Greek Life advisor from the university in the closest city to mine (which happened to be in New Mexico) and got information from them.

I do agree with your last part though.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by epchick

I can understand if that was her logic as a freshman, because I went through it as a freshman (not knowing anything...yada yada yada).

The fact is that TexasCutie is a 4th year senior, which gave her years to figure out about Greek Life. Even if she didn't know anyone personally who could give her recs, she could have gone to the Greek Life advisor for assistance.last part though.

My point exactly.

I was clarifying for her info why what she experienced isn't about "Hispanic culture" and that I understand what she meant about her frame of reference when she was just getting acclimated at college. I wasn't saying that her experience excused her lack of knowledge as a 4th year. That's why I ended by saying she can figure it out if she really wants to.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

My point exactly.

I was clarifying for her info why what she experienced isn't about "Hispanic culture" and that I understand what she meant about her frame of reference when she was just getting acclimated at college. I wasn't saying that her experience excused her lack of knowledge as a 4th year. That's why I ended by saying she can figure it out if she really wants to.

ahhhh ok, I missed understood your post.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by epchick

ahhhh ok, I missed understood your post.

My point was easy to misunderstand. My fault. LOL.

[lillady85]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Texas*princess' experience differs from that of TexasCuties and that's why it's not about Hispanic culture.

TexasCutie clearly stated the dynamics going on where she's from. It's similar to many black communities where graduating from high school is a huge feat--going to college is a God send--going Greek is not thought of or is laughed at as unrealistic. TexasCutie made the mistake of identifying her issue as a Hispanic one but it really is a subcultural issue.

She is really late on the bus with this one, however I don't think non-NPC organizations should be recommended to anyone because many of these organizations are not "last ditch efforts" for those who "want to belong to something." If she really wants to rush NPC, she will struggle to find out how to get the recs and see what she can do to make it happen in her 4th year. If it can't happen, maybe she's not meant to be in an organization at all.

You're right and I agree. I don't think she should go the non-NPC route as a last ditch effort. However, if she really wants to be in a sorority for all the right reasons, her efforts might prove to be more useful pursuing another route. From what I've read in the DST, AKA and other NPHC forums, there are women who try two, three times because they truly want it and pursue it (and this is even for graduate chapters). The OP does not have that option for NPC recruitment. I don't think she should go the non-NPC route just to get accepted somewhere and be in a sorority.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by lillady85

However, if she really wants to be in a sorority for all the right reasons......

She would've thought of an NPHC sorority without anyone recommending it.

I understand what you're saying with your entire post. However, the NPHC (and some other non-NPC orgs) culture is such that we don't say "oh, too late for NPC...how about you look at NPHC?" I wager to say that she probably doesn't have what it takes to pursue an NPHC org at the undergraduate or alumnae levels.