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05-28-2008, 12:36 PM
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Under this logic, literally anything can be dismissed as "history" because it's not here-and-now . . . everything from Senate experience ("she's acting on her own, so legislative body experience is just that . . . history") to education ("You really think he remembers all those Harvard classes from decades ago?") to doing blow off a stripper's ass ("Let's talk about today, not the past - I'm tired of hearing about him doing blow off hookers.").
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Let's not confuse things...the candidate's senatoral record or any governmental or legal offices...that to me IS relevant...that right there is a foundation as to why someone should be considered electable...
again, look at the folks I mentioned a while back...nearly nil military experience but ALL managed more than 1 term in office...so why are we making a big deal about McCain's experience? If we are to go by that then considering the 2 term presidents we have had, odds will say that McCain lasting thru more than one term is small at best!
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05-28-2008, 12:53 PM
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Let's not confuse things...the candidate's senatoral record or any governmental or legal offices...that to me IS relevant...that right there is a foundation as to why someone should be considered electable...
again, look at the folks I mentioned a while back...nearly nil military experience but ALL managed more than 1 term in office...so why are we making a big deal about McCain's experience? If we are to go by that then considering the 2 term presidents we have had, odds will say that McCain lasting thru more than one term is small at best!
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Well, let's see, maybe because we're at war right now, and probably still will be when the next President takes office.
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05-28-2008, 01:01 PM
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Let's not confuse things...the candidate's senatoral record or any governmental or legal offices...that to me IS relevant...that right there is a foundation as to why someone should be considered electable...
again, look at the folks I mentioned a while back...nearly nil military experience but ALL managed more than 1 term in office...so why are we making a big deal about McCain's experience? If we are to go by that then considering the 2 term presidents we have had, odds will say that McCain lasting thru more than one term is small at best!
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His military experience is going shape his war time choices much more than his experience in the Senate. With all the big deal being made about the Obama-McCain veterans bill situation, his military experience will have a lot to do with his policies.
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05-28-2008, 12:27 PM
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Daemon......it's a trivial blog about facts you may not know about John McCain. Nothing more. Nothing less. This isn't a campaign piece sent out by the GOP to sway voters. Obviously, this wasn't intended FOR YOU. You're acting like he sent this out himself.
Stop being such a Debbie Downer.....you and your boy Obama should pack a stiff bowl and mellow out!!!!
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05-28-2008, 12:36 PM
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Stop being such a Debbie Downer.....you and your boy Obama should pack a stiff bowl and mellow out!!!!
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now that's good advice that everybody can follow
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05-28-2008, 12:42 PM
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Stop being such a Debbie Downer.....you and your boy Obama should pack a stiff bowl and mellow out!!!!
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haha...he gave you the homeboy dismissal, Daemonseid.
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05-28-2008, 12:46 PM
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haha...he gave you the homeboy dismissal, Daemonseid.
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He got me but he knows I don't pay him any mind....hehehe!!!
Anywho....
1 fact you all should know about our current President.
He is the lowest ranked officer to have ever served as POTUS and tied with his father at that.
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05-28-2008, 12:49 PM
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1 fact you all should know about our current President.
He is the lowest ranked officer to have ever served as POTUS and tied with his father at that.
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But what's his favorite ice cream flavor? That's the stuff that really interests me.
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05-28-2008, 12:58 PM
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But what's his favorite ice cream flavor? That's the stuff that really interests me.
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Pralines and Cream.
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05-28-2008, 07:37 PM
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Daemon......it's a trivial blog about facts you may not know about John McCain. Nothing more. Nothing less. This isn't a campaign piece sent out by the GOP to sway voters. Obviously, this wasn't intended FOR YOU. You're acting like he sent this out himself.
Stop being such a Debbie Downer.....you and your boy Obama should pack a stiff bowl and mellow out!!!!
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05-28-2008, 01:03 PM
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Daemon, you don't think during a time of war people might, just maybe, for the hell of it, for shits and giggles, perhaps..........be drawn towards a candidate with a great deal of military experience?
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05-28-2008, 01:05 PM
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Daemon, you don't think during a time of war people might, just maybe, for the hell of it, for shits and giggles, perhaps..........be drawn towards a candidate with a great deal of military experience?
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If it was a war that the majority of the population was behind and supported...sure....
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05-28-2008, 01:08 PM
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Is the public opinion on the state of affairs in Iraq relevant to this discussion? Regardless if people are backing operations in the Middle East, it's still a time of war and John McCain is a deeply experience military leader.
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05-28-2008, 01:13 PM
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Is the public opinion on the state of affairs in Iraq relevant to this discussion? Regardless if people are backing operations in the Middle East, it's still a time of war and John McCain is a deeply experience military leader.
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I think it is.
Look at it this way...if there wasn't a war right now an dthe only thing on the minds of the American public was domestic policy...I would believe that McCain's war record would be irrelevant to his running for POTUS.
Look at the last election.
Kerry vs Bush and how the whole issue about their record in part was what bogged down Kerry's campaign.
Look at Bush vs Gore...
Did military record come up?
I honestly don't believe it mattered at the time due to the fact that we were not at war.
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05-28-2008, 01:18 PM
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I think it is.
Look at it this way...if there wasn't a war right now an dthe only thing on the minds of the American public was domestic policy...I would believe that McCain's war record would be irrelevant to his running for POTUS.
Look at the last election.
Kerry vs Bush and how the whole issue about their record in part was what bogged down Kerry's campaign.
Look at Bush vs Gore...
Did military record come up?
I honestly don't believe it mattered at the time due to the fact that we were not at war.
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But whether you like or not, there is. Different issues are important in different presidential races. Iraq war just so happens to important for this one.
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