Harry S Truman

[PhiGam]

I read it in one of Buchanon's books.

Here is a quote from a random internet site that seems somewhere in the middle:

In Oct. 1952, photocopies of sworn affidavits allegedly made in 1944 by members of the Missouri Ku Klux Klan supported their charge that President Harry Truman had once been a member of their Klan chapter. Walter Winchell’s release of the documents created an uproar. Truman’s press secretary denied the story. To this day, the truth or the falsehood of the charge remains undetermined although internet sites reporting on Truman’s life confirm-allegedly, he was a Klan member

[PhiGam]

Look up the photocopied documents of his membership that were released in 1952.
I think Truman was a great president but he had to do some things that he wasn't proud of on his way to the top.

[madmax]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Look up the photocopied documents of his membership that were released in 1952.
I think Truman was a great president but he had to do some things that he wasn't proud of on his way to the top.

His way to the top??? Truman was so "successful" he had the one of the lowest approval ratings ever.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by madmax

His way to the top??? Truman was so "successful" he had the one of the lowest approval ratings ever.

While that may be true, a lot had to do with the fact that he would have never been President except for FDRs death and he was elevated to the job.

He was a broke habidasher with a jewish partner and his shop was at the Muelbach Hotel in downtown Kansas City, Mo.

He became a County Judge of Jackson County, Mo. and did have the backing of Tom Pendergast and his machine. He also pushed for concrete roads into the county instead of dirt roads.

One must remember too, this was not yesterday but many years ago. I am sure with his mind, he wanted to check out what was going on around him to get a feel. KKK, so what? He found out what is was about and left. Dah, you moroon!

He had one of the lowest % of ratings of any president in our history except for maybe John Adams the second President and until GW Bush.

He fought in WWI as a Captain of the 35th Division and wore glasses while in charge of an artillary unit in Europe.

He did not know a thing from FDR about the Atomic Bomb research, but did make the decission to drop it to save American lives in WWII.

He never owned a house he lived in and did play the piano and hated the Missouri Waltz song that was attributed to him for make it famous.

History has proven him to be one of the top 10 most admired Presidents in the USA.

Why was he hated at times?

He gave equal rights to Blacks in the military and fired McCarther after WWII.

Keep giving crap for and from times that you have no idea about as you were not there.

Oh, FYI, he had one Secret Service guard who was also his driver. Not the whole globe that is there in place today.

He was a very unassuming man who was humbled by his surroundings and never forgot his beginnings.

Yep madmax and PhiGam, try learning what was history was all about first.

[RU OX Alum]

those who know history are doomed to repeat it

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

He was a broke habidasher with a jewish partner and his shop was at the Muelbach Hotel in downtown Kansas City, Mo.

I can see where his partner's religion would be important.

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

One must remember too, this was not yesterday but many years ago. I am sure with his mind, he wanted to check out what was going on around him to get a feel. KKK, so what? He found out what is was about and left. Dah, you moroon!

Wait - are you trying to tell me Truman joined the KKK without knowing what it was about in the slightest, found out it was a white supremacist group, then promptly left? Like, it was some sort of fact-finding expedition or a test of open-mindedness?

Holy crap.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

I can see where his partner's religion would be important.



Wait - are you trying to tell me Truman joined the KKK without knowing what it was about in the slightest, found out it was a white supremacist group, then promptly left? Like, it was some sort of fact-finding expedition or a test of open-mindedness?

Holy crap.

I especially found the fact that he wore glasses fascinating. That and the fact that he hated the MO Waltz. I thought I was the only one!

Seriously Tom; I tend to have a better view on Truman than others, and think that the passage of time has been kinder to views on his Presidency. However, just because the guy was a Lambda Chi, and you look up to him, doesn't mean he was free of faults.

Also, can we please stop the "you can't talk about history because you weren't there" arguments.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

I especially found the fact that he wore glasses fascinating. That and the fact that he hated the MO Waltz. I thought I was the only one!

Seriously Tom; I tend to have a better view on Truman than others, and think that the passage of time has been kinder to views on his Presidency. However, just because the guy was a Lambda Chi, and you look up to him, doesn't mean he was free of faults.

Also, can we please stop the "you can't talk about history because you weren't there" arguments.

LOL, hell, KSigkid, I did not know he was a LXA until many years later and found it very interesting as He was an Honoray member from the Un. Mo. Chapter.

I never said he was free of faults, I was talking a time frame in life that most who are living now were not then! But in reading CYBER makes it correct to some as I take it?

When one knows a person then that is important don't you agree?

Sorry, just trying to give a bit of a back ground on a short statured body and a plain man what he ended up accomplishing.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Yep madmax and PhiGam, try learning what was history was all about first.

While I don't think that this is a logical sentence, I'll reply anyway.
I'm glad that you admire Truman, I also admire him (as I stated in a later post). I simply stated fact: he was a member of the Ku Klux Klan and I find it hard to believe that he didn't know what the Ku Klux Klan was about- it is one of the oldest, most infamous secret organizations in the world.