"Don't pledge a sorority cause they will turn you into a bitch"

[Elephant Walk]

It will.

But it'll also make you way cuter in my eyes.

Good trade, in my opinion.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by greekintraining

Is what some of my boyfriends brothers said to me the other night. They say that I'm a nice girl and they don't want to see me become a snobby bitch like other girls they know. I come back saying that if i ever did pledge that I would always stay true to my morals. But they said that pledging changes you. Yeah, hopefully for the better I said. Is that really how guys feel about girls after they pledged. I mean come on, I knew some of these guys before they got into their house and the fact that they pledged a fraternity doesn't change my view of them as a person, so why am I getting all of this crap that If I do decide to pledge then they may not see me the same way anymore. Also if I did pledge to a sorority that they disliked would me being a part of it or wearing their letters make them dislike me as a person. Or if a sorority that I pledge dislikes the fraternity that my boyfriend is in would they give me problems about being with him and hanging out there?

Well, you are the one to make the decision about who you join, not your BF!

You have to live with them, not him!

What you will have may not include him!

You make your own choice, you wull be the one not him in the everafter!

[Scandia]

Bitches aren't always strong, opinionated, assertive women

I fit all those 3 words, and I never ever use the word "bitch" to describe myself. OK, so I rarely ever use it other than to refer to female canines.

snobby, biligerent, obnoxious, unnecessarily aggressive or arrogant

Yup, that would be that girl who does describe herself as a bitch.

Originally Posted by Scandia

Yup, that would be that girl who does describe herself as a bitch.

You really use it to refer to a female dog? Really? Really?

The only time I hear people use "bitch" in reference to a female dog is when they feel they need to justify their need to use that "bad word".

Reminds me of Catholic high school.

[DolphinChicaDDD]

Originally Posted by OTW

You really use it to refer to a female dog? Really? Really?

The only time I hear people use "bitch" in reference to a female dog is when they feel they need to justify their need to use that "bad word".

Reminds me of Catholic high school.

Dude, you missed the Westminster Kennel Club. I swear, all the announcers use bitch just because they can.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Scandia

I fit all those 3 words, and I never ever use the word "bitch" to describe myself. OK, so I rarely ever use it other than to refer to female canines.

Almost every woman thinks she fits those 3 words versus the "snobbish, etc." words.

I don't use "bitch" to describe myself, either, unless I'm admittingly "acting like a bitch." But that doesn't stop others from using that word to describe me.

Originally Posted by Scandia

Yup, that would be that girl who does describe herself as a bitch.

Or not.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DolphinChicaDDD

Dude, you missed the Westminster Kennel Club. I swear, all the announcers use bitch just because they can.

That has to be a bitch of a time. Watching those bitches strut their bitchness.

[Dionysus]

Bitches are annoying, but they fuck so good. Buckcherry said so.

[Kevlar281]

Guys who have a problem with their girlfriend joining a sorority have control/insecurity issues.

Originally Posted by Kevlar281

Guys who have a problem with their girlfriend joining a sorority have control/insecurity issues.

[smiley21]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

Bitches are annoying, but they fuck so good. Buckcherry said so.

Now the song is stuck in my head.

[indygphib]

Originally Posted by OTW

Holy crap! That is too funny!

Aren't we all forgetting the best "bitch" line ever? You know, "I'm Rick James, BITCH!"

[Matsimela]

Girl, im not gonna lie to you. I know A LOT of people that pledged and changed. Some people get caught up in this thing i like to call the "greek matrix" where they think being in a frat/sorority makes them better than everyone else in the entire world. Whether or not you change after you pledge is on you. But dont let anyone discourage you from wanting to join an org if thats what you really wanna do.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by DolphinChicaDDD

Dude, you missed the Westminster Kennel Club. I swear, all the announcers use bitch just because they can.

Maybe we're talking about different Westminster Kennel Club Shows, but the announcers I've heard (on all the kennel shows) are using "dam" more than ever before.

But back on topic: my one roomie rushed only because her boyfriend was losing interest in her, and becoming overly interested in sorority women. Needless to say, when she did become a sorority sister, she only lastest about two years. In other words, a guy either likes you or he doesn't. If he's too insecure to handle having you in a sorority, you need him (and his friends) like a flea dip.

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by Matsimela

Girl, im not gonna lie to you. I know A LOT of people that pledged and changed. Some people get caught up in this thing i like to call the "greek matrix" where they think being in a frat/sorority makes them better than everyone else in the entire world. Whether or not you change after you pledge is on you. But dont let anyone discourage you from wanting to join an org if thats what you really wanna do.

If you think about it (the collective you, not YOU personally), this can and does happen to people at so many different points in their lives.

For example, if you join a sports team, you may start "acting" like the other sports guys. Working out more, watching game films with the team, and resting the night before the game. You might gain confidence, and earn some success. People start to know your name.

Suddenly, people start saying, "you've changed".

When you join a GLO, you likely spend a lot of time with other members, at meetings, social events, philanthropy, etc. Your GLO may have a "call" or a do or say something that is unique to them. You wear the same colors or letters regularly. You may have moved into their house, or represent them on campus committees. You may walk in groups on your way to class or out at night. You are psyched that you found a group of friends, or joined a group you had your heart set on. You have a lot of different opportunities that maybe your older friends do not.

Suddenly, people start saying, "you've changed.

You have been working at the same place for years, when finally, you get that promotion and raise. You may get a company car and the president may invite you to vacation with him at his time share for a week. You buy a new car because until now, it just wasn't in the budget. You are less stressed now that you are finally contributing to your 401k or don't have to worry as much as to how to afford your daughter's braces. You feel proud because you manage people now, and you've never been the leader in anything. You may even be your friend's boss now. Finally, your major in underwater basket weaving is worth something.

Suddenly, people start saying, "you've changed".

My point is, we change constantly. We change due to new assocations (people), environments (roommates, houses, neighborhoods, jobs), financial status, etc. Often, the people who were close to the person going through the change are nervous - they worry about what is going to happen to their relationship?

Now onto what I think this poster means. With change, people may feel like they are better than those who didn't get chosen join, promote, make the team, etc. But most of the time, I can guarantee, that attitude changes are likely a front. They are petrified. They got what they finally wanted, or worked for, and now what? Should they dress differently? Talk differently? In many cases, they have to. Team jerseys, letters, suits and ties....there are "uniforms" everywhere.

I don't think that the situation is unique to Greeks only. It happens over and over. How we respond to change within our own lives is what's important. Parents always say "be yourself", and now that I am an adult, I can tell you that it's so very true. If you are true to yourself, then any changes you experience will be positive ones.

Best of luck.