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02-07-2008, 02:58 PM
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That being the main one...this is why everyone more than ever is being urged to vote this election year
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I don't think that's the main one, especially for older people who have never voted.
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02-07-2008, 03:29 PM
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I don't think that's the main one, especially for older people who have never voted.
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It depends on who you talk to in some cases.
But you still have a lot of disenfranchised folks who still feel that the 2000 and 2004 votes didn't matter and now they are of age...or were at that time, why bother when they feel like they are being cheated?
I had a similar conversation with one of my frat brothers back in 04.
He was too young to vote back in 2000 and didn't bother in 2004 because 'he knew that Bush would find a way to cheat'
Althouhg I could understand his frustration I still had to remind him that there is nothing he could be mad about if he at least still didn't exercise his right to vote.
He is definently voting this year.(mostly because everytime he tried to get into a political debate we would remind him of that facr and shut him down...heh!)
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02-07-2008, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
It depends on who you talk to in some cases.
But you still have a lot of disenfranchised folks who still feel that the 2000 and 2004 votes didn't matter and now they are of age...or were at that time, why bother when they feel like they are being cheated?
I had a similar conversation with one of my frat brothers back in 04.
He was too young to vote back in 2000 and didn't bother in 2004 because 'he knew that Bush would find a way to cheat'
Althouhg I could understand his frustration I still had to remind him that there is nothing he could be mad about if he at least still didn't exercise his right to vote.
He is definently voting this year.(mostly because everytime he tried to get into a political debate we would remind him of that facr and shut him down...heh!)
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Now I see where you're going. I thought you were talking about people who had voted and were pissed because they thought their vote didn't count.
This younger woman on Baisden said that she was tempted not to vote ever again because she felt her vote didn't count in the last election because Bush was re-elected. I said outloud "what an idiot...." because votes always count unless there is some error/conspiracy at the polls. Just because a certain candidate wasn't elected doesn't mean the votes weren't counted and didn't count.
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02-07-2008, 10:20 PM
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Excuses for Not Voting
I've heard the "my vote won't count" before  As a person living in the one of the most lucrative and most ignorant countries on the face of this planet, I feel like smacking a few million folks with a history book, math book, dictionary, etc. Those people who don't end up voting are the very ones complaining about the government slighting them of this or that. How can you sit up here and complain about something when you had an opportunity to keep it from occuring in the first place  I guess you can't necessarily fault them for their ignorance, but after a certain point it's just sheer stupidity that spews from the mouths of these fools (yes fools). Unless you've been a convicted felon, are in jail, or have some other legit reason which prevents you from voting, there is no excuse for one taking it upon themselves to simply "not vote".
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02-08-2008, 01:53 AM
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I asked my roomie (who is from Nashville, TN) did she vote and she was like "naw, I'm not in Nashville." I told her "Uuuummmmmmmm we are in the Murfreesboro which is JUST 30 minutes away and you couldn't drive your lazy a$$ home for that? You drive for everything else in you Hybrid automobile that you say hardly burns gas! People marched, suffered, and died just for BLACK (people) and WOMEN to have the right to do so!" She couldn't say nothing but just stand there and look dumb. And, I politely left her in her dumbness. She too young to be that dayum lazy...
"Bitchassness" is certainly affecting our communities...folks want to whine and complain but too lazy to participate in a simple act that can change and improve things.
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02-09-2008, 10:54 AM
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Though I'm over 50, I still recall casting my first vote. Congratulations.
You're to be commended for taking the vote seriously and for voting issues, not parties or personalities.
Recall civics classes, too. Candidates will do or say a lot to be elected that they either know they can't accomplish, or learn they can't accomplish. Look at their plans for getting their way. Note whether they have records of compromise and bipartisanship. Note whether they.have records that are consistent with their current words.
For incumbents or those who have been in Congress, look at www.thomas.gov at legislation they've sponsored. What issues have they cared enough about to sponsor? What have they cosponsored? What have they worked hard enough at that they have cosponsors and support from both sides of the aisle? What have they voted FOR or AGAINST simply because it was expedient, but didn't mesh with stated words.
You can spend a lifetime doing this, and some do. Pick an issue or two or three to start. Look at whether the candidate's plans are realistic, not just making promises.
And have FUN!
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02-09-2008, 03:49 PM
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I love customers who come into the store and brag that they do not vote as they do not care.
I look them straight in the eye and tell them, "well if you do not vote then do not complain".
Even though someone on this site she knows more about the state laws I lived in (Mo.) and She lives in (Pn), I have voted every damn time which gives me the right to complain about how things are run!
Good for you HB, vote, it is a right that many lives were lost to allow you to do this!
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