Miss America: Realty Check

[CrimsonTide4]

Originally Posted by ISUKappa

Do you mean Idaho? Big hair chick? She's the 19-year-old. Miss Iowa is 23 (and a former baton twirler which would explain the extreme peppiness).

Yeah, Idaho not Iowa. Thanks.

[bluefish81]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

I didn't see it, but I think I'd have to agree. I highly doubt this is how they really feel. While sex before marriage is virtuous and all, I would seriously doubt that all of them really are "saving themselves"... they probably don't want to sound like the only hussy on the show.

I realize that you didn't see it, but one of the judges tried to call some of the women on it (sex before marriage). Sort of a, are you really practicing what you preach? I think she was saying something along the lines of, "Are you a virgin, Miss "Insert a State here"... I don't think she got a response.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

Originally Posted by bluefish81

I realize that you didn't see it, but one of the judges tried to call some of the women on it (sex before marriage). Sort of a, are you really practicing what you preach? I think she was saying something along the lines of, "Are you a virgin, Miss "Insert a State here"... I don't think she got a response.

I saw that part too and no one's response was shown. It felt so awkward to me. I want a Miss America who can be herself whether or not she's having sex or whatever. They just HAD to bring it up so everyone could look around accusingly and be like "not me you whore"!

[SWTXBelle]

In their defense - it is entirely possible that one or more HAD sex and decided that she would hereafter wait until marriage.
AND - it is possible to be a virgin past the age of 16, Jamie Lynn Spears to the contrary.
I went to college in the 80s - my students assumed I HAD to have done drugs - uh, no. Not even a cigarette. So I'd hate to make a blanket statement either way about a group of 52 young women. I hope "updating" the pageant doesn't mean going the way of slutty Miss USA.

[bluefish81]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

In their defense - it is entirely possible that one or more HAD sex and decided that she would hereafter wait until marriage.
AND - it is possible to be a virgin past the age of 16, Jamie Lynn Spears to the contrary.
I went to college in the 80s - my students assumed I HAD to have done drugs - uh, no. Not even a cigarette. So I'd hate to make a blanket statement either way about a group of 52 young women. I hope "updating" the pageant doesn't mean going the way of slutty Miss USA.

Oh, I'm not saying it's impossible that some of these women may very well be virgins. However, given that they range in age from 19-23 or 24, the odds are probably slimmer than if this was taking place eons ago (also assuming all the women were still unmarried at said point eons ago). I don't think the intent of updating the pagaent is to make them all fullblown sluts, I think it's to make them more authentic, and bring them out of the late 80s/early 90s.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by bluefish81

Oh, I'm not saying it's impossible that some of these women may very well be virgins. However, given that they range in age from 19-23 or 24, the odds are probably slimmer than if this was taking place eons ago (also assuming all the women were still unmarried at said point eons ago). I don't think the intent of updating the pagaent is to make them all fullblown sluts, I think it's to make them more authentic, and bring them out of the late 80s/early 90s.

agreed. no one made any blanket statements saying "they're all sluts and they need to own up to it!"... just saying it's highly improbable that ALL 52 19-24 yr olds are virgins.

If they have had premartial sex, so what? Why can't they be REAL and not pretend like they haven't. The reason of course being that if they have judges that want women who are waiting until marriage and are for world peace, they want to be that girl so they can win.

They can take the stance that people need to be responsible when having premartial sex and be fully aware of the consquences (*ahem*JamieLynn) including pregnancy and STDs.

[SWTXBelle]

I don't know that the contestants agreed to have their sex lives discussed - I'm a big believer in keeping private lives, uh, private. My point is that all of us, I hope, have high standards to which we strive to keep, but may sometimes fail. That doesn't mean we are bad people - only human. "A man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?", to quote Browning. With a whole wealth of controversial subjects available, it seems rather sensational to put this one out there the way they did. What contestant is going to say "Premarital sex is great!"?? They kinda loaded the deck against the girls at that table especially given the short amount of time they had to discuss it.

[SWTXBelle]

Do we know which contestants are Greeks???

[SoCalGirl]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Do we know which contestants are Greeks???

Missouri is an SK!!!

[SWTXBelle]

Miss Colorado - Kappa Delta
Miss Missouri - Sigma Kappa
Miss Georgia - Phi Mu
Miss Illinois - Phi Mu
Miss North Carolina - Alpha Delta Pi
Miss Florida - Alpha Delta Pi
Miss Arkansas - Pi Beta Phi
Miss Kansas - Chi Omega
Miss Mississippi - Zeta Phi Beta


Any others??

[CutiePie2000]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

Why/When did Miss Virgin Islands start competing?

I think this is the 1st year, but maybe it just came down to there never being a director for the Miss Virgin Islands-America pageant before this point. Once they got a director to run the...errr..."state" preliminary, they could send a girl to the Miss America.

[Fleur de Lis]

There is another thread called "Any greeks in the upcoming Miss America pageant?" that I just updated with the Miss Missouri -Sigma Kappa tally. (CO was already accounted for.) Where did she go to school?

I don't know how to link threads, so if someone else wants to, please help a girl out.

[SWTXBelle]

Me neither.

[SoCalGirl]

Miss Missouri attended U of Penn

[hottytoddy]

Miss Illinois was a Phi Mu with me! Yea Ashley!!

Ole Miss actually has 3 girls in this:
Miss Illinois - Ashley Hatfield - Phi Mu
Miss Arkansas - Katie Bailey - Pi Beta Phi
Miss Tennessee - Grace Gore (not sure what sorority she's in)


Miss Mississippi is from Oxford too, but went to Alcorn State.