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Old 10-22-2007, 02:44 PM
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She doesn't live in the city. She doesn't bear the brunt of the city costs.

I don't understand how anyone can live in the city on less than 100. I'm not counting the outer boroughs or people that still get allowances at 28. I just don't get it. To make it work out you'd live in a dump, in an awful building, really far on the upper east or west, and with a lot of roommates.

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Thats true, i don't live in the city, but i live right outside of it, and it is less expensive, but it still is very high.

I agree with your second paragraph though, you would really have to live in harlem with about 10 ppl in order to make it. sigh.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:43 PM
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Plus, you have to look at the incentives for reform. These reforms won't be carried through because the average American is working poor and living paycheck to paycheck. That has almost always been the case.

Reforms of the currency standard will only occur if there is a threat to the structure of capitalism and if there is no other solution to the US economic crisis.

So people need not bank on reform and need to bank on learning how this all operates and providing safety nets where the government is falling short (because the government will ALWAYS fall short).
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:00 AM
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Have you ever looked back at a thread you posted in months ago and thought "geesh...I sure did post too darn much!"

Oh and I love eggplants and zucchini.
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:06 AM
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Have you ever looked back at a thread you posted in months ago and thought "geesh...I sure did post too darn much!"

Oh and I love eggplants and zucchini.
Let's meet in the VividRoom and discuss this...
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:32 PM
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Sorry for the rant, but saying things like you need to save your money and you wont get into these sorts of situations is very misleading.

No, it isn't because we also said to look for investment and wealth building opportunities.

As adults, we should already know about inflation and the inner workings of capitalism. But discussing that without discussing the consumer economy is ignoring what economists, politicians, and social scientists have been examining even before FDR's New Deal and through the economic shifts of the 80s and 90s.

Inflation happens so deal with it. You won't change how the capitalist economy operates immediately but you can alter how you operate within it with hopes for a better outcome. Either advocate self-empowerment or advocate an increase in the welfare state and state dependents. But I don't want my tax paying money to go to people who really don't need it as much as liberals have told them they do.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:40 PM
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I won't waver on my belief that our economic situation needs MAJOR reform.

Once again, American citizens aren't the ones who will be doing that reforming, at least to the extent that people will see changes as quickly as they want to.

So back to the main point of people making the necessary changes in their lives to adjust. If not for that, there will just be this annoying "system blame" that removes all personal responsibility.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:07 PM
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The first part of your argument is where political apathy comes from. Elections are in a year. There is something you can do.
Perhaps for other people. But if you really read my posts, you won't be interpreting them as apathetic. Keep the words in my posts within their proper context.

I know elections are in a year, thanks. Americans' personal responsibilities don't begin and end with our voting rights. And voting never means the changes you seek will be in place anytime soon. Change is a process.

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The second part, I completely agree with.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:18 PM
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ok...so since we all agree....somebody loan me 10 bux til friday.....
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:41 PM
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ok...so since we all agree....somebody loan me 10 bux til friday.....
What have you done to prevent yourself from needing that loan?
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:48 PM
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What have you done to prevent yourself from needing that loan?
UUUhhhh...I invested some in a brother that was in dire need of food and gas....LOL


you can ummm...paypal or send a check...hehehehehe
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:24 PM
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I'm still voting Republican.

A Democrat doing the things many of you would advocate would simply facilitate America's slide towards socialism. Fortunately, I think there's a very conservative Supreme Court on the bench (and a very young one at that) which will serve as a nasty thorn in the side of whichever liberal president/congress come along next year.

It'll be like the 4 horsemen all over again, but there'll be 5 of them.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:43 PM
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I'm still voting Republican.

A Democrat doing the things many of you would advocate would simply facilitate America's slide towards socialism. Fortunately, I think there's a very conservative Supreme Court on the bench (and a very young one at that) which will serve as a nasty thorn in the side of whichever liberal president/congress come along next year.

It'll be like the 4 horsemen all over again, but there'll be 5 of them.
I'm voting for the best candidate. I don't choose the party beforehand.

America will never be socialist or at least it won't be in my lifetime.
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Old 10-22-2007, 05:29 PM
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I'm voting for the best candidate. I don't choose the party beforehand.

America will never be socialist or at least it won't be in my lifetime.
Clinton will be the Democratic candidate. That said, it is not hard to find a better candidate. Therefore, I will be voting Republican in the Presidential election.

I may be voting Democrat just about everywhere else. Oklahoma's Republican party has really pissed me off as of late with their obvious pandering to corporate interests, pay to play politics, you know.. the stuff the Clintons are known for.
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