BGLO/GLO-Honorary..Good or Bad........

[12dn94dst]

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82:
I applaud KAPsi for not having honoraries and I am proud that we have very few. The few that we do hold a special place in our org and are there for partucular reasons. Fame and/or good works is not a vald reason for membership into Omega. We need no one, nor do we seek them. If you value the membership, then pledge for it. With sororities, it is different.

Brother Dear, would you care to explain how it's different with sororities? Delta doesn't have many honorary members either. Last I checked the number was around 100 total and about half of them are deceased. That's less than five hundreths of a percent (.05%) of the total membership.



[This message has been edited by 12dn94dst (edited February 01, 2001).]

[DoggyStyle82]

Sista, there is really no way for me to discuss this without offending anyone and that is not my intention. Again, I will say that honorary membership is fine for female orgs. You do not have to defend it. My feeling for male orgs is that you don't ask people to join your org if they haven't sought membership and have not the time nor inclination to be initiated in the traditional manner, be they famous, noble, and/or influential.

[DST Love]

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82:
Common misconceptions:

Shaq is not honorary
David Justice is not honorary
Steve Harvey is not honorary
Bill Cosby is not honorary
Michael Jordan is not honorary
Ahmad Rashad is not honorary
Mayor of Atlanta Bill Campell is not honorary.

I was just wondering where each of them pledged.

[justmyo]

I can't speak for other organizations but from my experience,my organizations does not have honorary members.If the Prince of Whales wanted to pledge he would have to go through intake like anyone else.I personally don't agree with a person being invited to a function or a convention and then told that he can be a honorary member with all the priveleges as the rest of us.Especially if the person does not have a College degree.
I have heard of one organization that claim famous people even after they are dead.That's a desperate cry for membership.I hope that all famous members of every organization listed in the Divine Nine are truly initiated members.

[justmyo]

I can't speak for other organizations but from my experience,my organizations does not have honorary members.If the Prince of Whales wanted to pledge he would have to go through intake like anyone else.I personally don't agree with a person being invited to a function or a convention and then told that he can be a honorary member with all the priveleges as the rest of us.Especially if the person does not have a College degree.
I have heard of one organization that claim famous people even after they are dead.That's a desperate cry for membership.I hope that all famous members of every organization listed in the Divine Nine are truly initiated members.

[Reds695]

Don't quote me on this, but I believe Steve Harvey had a degree already. i do know that when he was in college he pledge Que, but his line was dropped. He was just finishing something he started a long time ago.

[12dn94dst]

Maybe I'm losing my mind, but I thought DoggyStyle82 had posted where the Bruhs he mentioned crossed.

[AKA2D '91]

Originally posted by 12dn94dst:
Maybe I'm losing my mind, but I thought DoggyStyle82 had posted where the Bruhs he mentioned crossed.

he he... maybe it was a dream?
Deja Vu perhaps?

girl, I know that "new job" has not made you "lose your mind up in here, up in here" lol

Seriously, I know earlier he posted that they were not honorary. I don't know...

[AKA2D '91]

Originally posted by DST Love:

I was just wondering where each of them pledged.

YEAH, and if they do not have a degree when they are initiated, are they enrolled in college ...just wondering?

Didn't Steve Harvey "go over" not too long ago? So, is he enrolled in school somewhere taking classes towards a degree or does he already have a degree?
That goes for David Justice, too. What about Shaq? He JUST received his degree from LSU last semester and when he "crossed" he was in "the league"...

[Miami1839]

I noticed Jim Vance, a news anchor for NBC in Washington, D.C. is a Kappa Alpha Psi. He mentioned that recently during an evening news cast. I thought that was pretty cool.

Kevin

[12dn94dst]

Originally posted by AKA2D '91:
he he... maybe it was a dream?
Deja Vu perhaps?

girl, I know that "new job" has not made you "lose your mind up in here, up in here" lol

LMC&CBO! no, i was already losing my mind, have been for quite sometime now , but this "new job" has seemed to speed up the process just a lil! LOL

[DoggyStyle82]

Originally posted by 12dn94dst:
Maybe I'm losing my mind, but I thought DoggyStyle82 had posted where the Bruhs he mentioned crossed.

Steve Harvey pledged at Kent State as an undergrad, but because of circumstances, did not become official until '99.

David Justice was intake thru the Atl grad chapter

Shaq was not allowed to pledge by his coach as an u/g, he was intake thru the grad in Orlando.

Bill Cosby pledged as an u/g at Temple Univ and belongs to a grad chapter in NYC

Ahmad Rashad is grad intake in NY.

None of them are honorary and they all sought Omega.

[blackbird]

Bill Cosby did not become a member at Temple as an undergrad. He became a member at Beta Alpha Alpha Chapter of White Plains New York in 1988.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by blackbird

Bill Cosby did not become a member at Temple as an undergrad. He became a member at Beta Alpha Alpha Chapter of White Plains New York in 1988.

You learn something new every day.

[rhoyaltempest]

I think there are a lot of misconceptions around honorary membership in the NPHC. Yes, these members are invited to join because they are extraordinary in their professional fields (and yes, they are really initiated as members), but becoming an honorary member does not mean that you are not involved in your organization. We've had honoraries for years and many of them (past and present) are active in grad chapters and really come to love the sorority just as much as those who aren't honoraries. And the bottom line is that we're all equal in the sorority. Many also represent their organizations on their own while working with other organizations and projects that they're involved in. So being an honorary does not necessarily mean that you are just a billboard for an organization. If your organization doesn't have honorary members and you're okay with that, great...but don't knock others especially when you really don't know the extent of which these members are involved in their organizations.