Protest at Columbia over Iranian President

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Protests in general are pretty pointless.

They're just wastes of time for (mostly) unemployed people. It must be nice to not have to show up to work/class/whatever right in the middle of the week. Perhaps these peoples' time could best be spent filling out employment applications or doing community service?

We have a peace rally here in OKC at a certain location every evening at 5PM -- the big one is on Fridays. We don't get the colorful types Rudey describes. Mostly a bunch of 60's left-behinds trying to relive their youths. I have a feeling that they see this more as a social event and an opportunity to show off their mad bongo skillz than anything reasonably calculated to accomplish a political objective.

That's just my take though.

I'm glad we agree on this.

If it's on a Friday at 5 p.m. presumably they could have gone to work all day...maybe even somewhere other than their daddy's law firm.

[cuteASAbug]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Protests in general are pretty pointless.

They're just wastes of time for (mostly) unemployed people. It must be nice to not have to show up to work/class/whatever right in the middle of the week. Perhaps these peoples' time could best be spent filling out employment applications or doing community service?

I can see why you would think that standing up for what you believe in is pretty pointless and a waste of time. Were suffragates who protested for equal rights for women in the 20th century wasting their time? Or African-Americans in the 1960's who fought for Civil Rights wasting their time? I think that half the people whom you read about in college and law school would roll over in their graves at some of your comments.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

I can see why you would think that standing up for what you believe in is pretty pointless and a waste of time. Were suffragates who protested for equal rights for women in the 20th century wasting their time? Or African-Americans in the 1960's who fought for Civil Rights wasting their time? I think that half the people whom you read about in college and law school would roll over in their graves at some of your comments.

he doesnt nor ever had a reason why he needs to protest...he is one of those idyllic people who never had a freedom taken away except for maybe a reduction of his allowance.

If you never had to struggle for anything then you would never understand what the definition means

[Munchkin03]

Columbia students will protest over anything. I remember once some kids were protesting because the Olsen twins were shooting a movie on campus.

The UN is in session this week, and Columbia's school of Int'l Affairs always sponsors a week of world leader speeches during the first week of the General Assembly. I don't think anyone in recent memory has been this controversial, though.

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

...he doesnt nor ever had a reason why he needs to protest...he is one of those idyllic people who never had a freedom taken away except for maybe a reduction of his allowance.

I don't think you know that.

With only a few notable exceptions, I don't know a lot about family wealth, upbringing, status or anything other than what I read here on GC.

Besides, while I don't agree that all demonstrations are pointless (having viewed the Vietnam era and how the balance of power shifted first hand -- although I guess that could make me a 60's left behind), he is entitled to his opinion and would be whether his last name is Rockefeller or he doesn't have a pot to, uh, urinate in.

So, unless you have inside information, let's not assume what we don't know about our fellow posters.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

I don't think you know that.

With only a few notable exceptions, I don't know a lot about family wealth, upbringing, status or anything other than what I read here on GC.

Besides, while I don't agree that all demonstrations are pointless (having viewed the Vietnam era and how the balance of power shifted first hand -- although I guess that could make me a 60's left behind), he is entitled to his opinion and would be whether his last name is Rockefeller or he doesn't have a pot to, uh, urinate in.

So, unless you have inside information, let's not assume what we don't know about our fellow posters.

then Delt you better aim that at him and not at me...it seems that he is a whiole lot more talented and proficient at the assumption game.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

If it's on a Friday at 5 p.m. presumably they could have gone to work all day...maybe even somewhere other than their daddy's law firm.

Working for my "daddy's law firm," I'll have FAR more effect on the state of the world than any of those folks ever will.

-- but we all like to feel like we contribute to society I suppose.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

I don't think you know that.

With only a few notable exceptions, I don't know a lot about family wealth, upbringing, status or anything other than what I read here on GC.

Besides, while I don't agree that all demonstrations are pointless (having viewed the Vietnam era and how the balance of power shifted first hand -- although I guess that could make me a 60's left behind), he is entitled to his opinion and would be whether his last name is Rockefeller or he doesn't have a pot to, uh, urinate in.

So, unless you have inside information, let's not assume what we don't know about our fellow posters.

Any recent protests have nothing to do with the current shift in power.

Or if they do, it's minimal.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Working for my "daddy's law firm," I'll have FAR more effect on the state of the world than any of those folks ever will.

-- but we all like to feel like we contribute to society I suppose.

and that is what scares me...people who dont have a finger on the pulse of society but find ways to get put into power,,,,

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

and that is what scares me...people who dont have a finger on the pulse of society but find ways to get put into power,,,,

What exactly are you trying to say? What has come out of the Columbia protests or Jena which will result in any societal changes?

Nothing.

[Rudey]

Ignoring all the foolish posts in this thread, my favorite remark today by the president of Iran was in regards to treatment of gays, and him basically calling Americans gay. Pretty funny IMO:

Pressed by Dean Coatsworth on the original question about the rights of gay men and lesbians in Iran, Mr. Ahmadinejad said: “In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals like in your country. We don’t have that in our country.”

The audience booed and hissed loudly. Some laughed, uncomfortably.

“In Iran, we do not have this phenomenon,” Mr. Ahmadinejad continued, undeterred. “I do not know who has told you that we have it.

-Rudey

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Kevin

What exactly are you trying to say? What has come out of the Columbia protests or Jena which will result in any societal changes?

Nothing.

dude...why are your jaws still flapping...you indicated that you don't care...we all get it.

[AOII_LB93]

Is the pissing contest done yet, or are you guys still dribbling on each others shoes?

Back on the topic of Ahmadinejad...

Rudey,
I thought by far that was the funniest comment he made. Though I've heard it echoed from others I know in the region. A woman I was in my grad program with (who was from Jordan) and a gentleman from Morocco were both of the same mindset. It was kind of odd to hear an educated adult say, "There are no gay people in my country. It just doesn't happen there."

It was an odd comment, but I would presume that over "there", homosexuals are probably trying to hide it since it's "less acceptable" than in western culture...not that all kinds of people in this country accept it, I think we might just be a little more aware of it.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

and that is what scares me...people who dont have a finger on the pulse of society but find ways to get put into power,,,,

I don't think Kevin is going to be able to wield all that much power from a family law firm in Oklahoma.

Back on topic somewhat, I wish I had taken advantage more of my college experience to see speakers, controversial and not. I am glad that I did not spend any of my college time being a crazy protester at everything that reeked even slightly of controversy.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Working for my "daddy's law firm," I'll have FAR more effect on the state of the world than any of those folks ever will.

I know you think that all of the protestors are unemployed liberals--but come on, Kevin. Some of the people there really are the type who didn't want to see the 60s go, but the majority are well-educated and affluent college students. Columbia costs something like 45K a year to attend, and only about half of the roughly seven thousand undergrads qualify for any assistance. Do the math.

A lot of those Columbia students may not fit your idea of what a successful person is (hell, during my time there they annoyed me), but after college, a good chunk of these kids will actually go to some of the best law schools (as opposed to a TTTT like yourself) and go on to prestigious clerkships or top law firms, where they will indeed wield far, far more power than you ever will in Oklahoma.

Just so you know, and you'll stop talking out of your ass...