Important Question

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

I believe it is all Greeks. However, they don't have an Asian Fraternity, and we already have documented interest (ie a sizeable group of people).

Basically, it just seems really unfair to make these kids wait because clearly their needs are not being met by the campus at present.

And it is a public institution.

Now, that brings up a realy interseting question of what and why?

If it is a National School as in State school, with public funds, how can they do this?

[MaryAmanda]

Originally Posted by 33girl

In NPC's eyes, yes. In the school's eyes, maybe not. They might actually welcome it since then a lot of the liablility will get transferred onto the national whereas before it was all on the school.

We have a local social sorority here at Tech who has tried twice in recent years to go national. SGA won't let them because we currently have 6 Panhellenics who are already struggling to keep quotas. (We also have about 22 fraternities who are doing just fine! Keep in mind, engineering school; 3 guys for every 1 girl on campus!) So to answer the query, from my experience, it counts as expansion even if it's a local trying to go national. Until Tech can sustain enough girls actually on the campus to exceed NPC's expectations, the local will remain local for the time being.

[preciousjeni]

TTT with a question...

I'm aware of a private school that closed the expansion of Greek Life completely for a few years. Recently, they created a new Greek-wide policy (covers NPC, NIC, NPHC, NALFO, etc.) for expansion that was adopted and accepted, to my knowledge. The most recent news is that they are opening up expansion, but only to fraternities.

How is that possible? How much power to private school really have? And, how does Title IX play into the issue when students of the private school are receiving federal funds to attend the private school? Thoughts?

[gpb1874]

private schools can do pretty much anything they want in terms of recognizing organizations and prohibiting free speech/association. normally, they will set some sort of process in place for what can and can't be recognized and they have to follow those procedures (of course they can change them at any time as well). some private schools hold freedom of association/speech on high esteem and don't block it much, if at all. some are totally opposite and go the extreme of prohibiting it.

it does not matter if the students receive federal aid-it only matters if the university itself receives federal aid. Even then, I believe there are some loop holes-ie: if a private university receives federal money for a certain thing or a certain percentage, they are still exempt from upholding those freedoms. i can't be totally certain on that; i just remember a conversation a few years ago about it and that's about all i remember.

public schools can place restrictions on new organizations for valid reasons. As already mentioned, some do it because the existing chapters are not doing well (although a new chapter can actually re-energize interest in Greek life all together and not "take members away" from current chapters-they have not joined you yet, so what makes you think they will want to next semester?)

it can also be restricted because the university may not have the resources to administer more organizations. Gphiangel was (probably still is) in that situation because of many, many Greeks starting within a short time frame. With a limited staff and resources, it can be difficult for the university to provide a constant level of support to the organizations.