Are NPHC orgs Christian?

[PositivelyAKA]

Originally posted by Rain Man:
I ask this with a very serious intent to "use" this information to guide me down the right road.
Rain Man

what right road are you refering to? if you are looking for a greek/church/any organization for that matter where ALL the members "consistenly" reflect christian prinicipals or even "moral" prinicipals then stop looking, cause it ain't out there. humans are by nature flawed and even if taneka is being moral/christian today chances are that sheniqua may not be, but they are all in the same organization and if they do a sucessful food drive that feeds a hungry mouth then the purpose is served. The real question may be are YOU practicing the principals that you are looking for in an organization that will guide you down that road? as for AKA we were founded on christian prinicpals in order to provide a sisterhood in which college women could support and bond with each other and serve their communities as a result of their committment to one another. and we continue to strive and practice those principals today. sorry we are not a simple organization, so a simple yes or no will not do

[Rain Man]

Originally posted by PositivelyAKA:
what right road are you refering to? if you are looking for a greek/church/any organization for that matter where ALL the members "consistenly" reflect christian prinicipals or even "moral" prinicipals then stop looking, cause it ain't out there. humans are by nature flawed and even if taneka is being moral/christian today chances are that sheniqua may not be, but they are all in the same organization and if they do a sucessful food drive that feeds a hungry mouth then the purpose is served. The real question may be are YOU practicing the principals that you are looking for in an organization that will guide you down that road? as for AKA we were founded on christian prinicpals in order to provide a sisterhood in which college women could support and bond with each other and serve their communities as a result of their committment to one another. and we continue to strive and practice those principals today. sorry we are not a simple organization, so a simple yes or no will not do

Thanks for responding, Positively.

I started Part II of this thread, entitled "Are NPHC Orgs Christian (Why I originally asked)". It explains what prompted me to ask the question originally and thus should answer your initial question.
Check it out and respond in that thread (It is on Page 2 of the Greek Life thread--posted 12/5/00 @ 1:48 pm)

Lemme know what you think

Rain Man

[justmyo]

Rainman
I would like to believe all Fraternities and Sororities are based on Christian principles and values.
I am sure all NPHC use the Bible in some point in their Rituals of Initiation.I am also sure all these organizations have a national prayers.
You must take into consideration the founding of all of these organizations,they were all founded at the turn of the century when conditions were not the greatest for the Black student(AT the time we were Negro).AS the history of our people portrait we have always turned to GOd for our strength and guidiance.Just because we are now on a College campus we would never abandon the basic principles instilled in us by our forefounders.
I know we do not always show the christian values that we are based on,and that is because we are still secret( private) organizations.
I hope this answers your questions.

[Rain Man]

Originally posted by justmyo:
Rainman
I would like to believe all Fraternities and Sororities are based on Christian principles and values.
I am sure all NPHC use the Bible in some point in their Rituals of Initiation.I am also sure all these organizations have a national prayers.
You must take into consideration the founding of all of these organizations,they were all founded at the turn of the century when conditions were not the greatest for the Black student(AT the time we were Negro).AS the history of our people portrait we have always turned to GOd for our strength and guidiance.Just because we are now on a College campus we would never abandon the basic principles instilled in us by our forefounders.
I know we do not always show the christian values that we are based on,and that is because we are still secret( private) organizations.
I hope this answers your questions.

Not really, Justmyo; and that is because everyone is saying that their org is founded on Christian principles, but that does not mean that the org in question is Christian. IMHO it is no more different that me asking you if you are Christian. Would you answer with "Well, I was born in a Christian family" or "I was raised with Christian principles." No, because those answers do not determine if you are a Christian or not. You would answer with a "yes" or a "no". As far as serving God, be it individually or collectively, there is no middle ground. You either are or aren't. I have already resigned my posting of questions with the answer being "No, those orgs are not Christian" if for no other reason than I could not get a simple definitive answer to begin with.

Personal case in point: My fraternity was founded on Scouting principles. If someone was to ask us if we are a Scouting fraternity, I would answer "No". That is because with the former Scouting requirement being dropped, along with the mass admittance of women, gays, and atheists, combined with our org and the BSA being at odds with each other about the admittance of such individuals left the principles of Scouting largely abandoned and thus we are not a Scouting fraternity.

Rain Man

[NicoleRey]

Originally posted by MIDWESTDIVA:
The only fraternal organization that I know of that requires its members be Christian is masonry.

Actually, MWD, the requirement of Masonic fraternities is that the potential member believes in a Supreme Being. Not necessarily the Judeo/Christian "God".
(I don't usually comment, since I'm not Greek...But I AM an Eastern Star.)

NicoleRey

[justmyo]

Rainman
I think the answer you are looking for must come from the individuals in the organizations.Am I a Christian?the answer is yes.Are all my brothers Christians?the answer is no.Over all are most of us Christians?the answer would have to be YES.So does that make us a christian organization?Can we all become Christians?yes.Then I must ask you are you referring to serving God and practicing Christian principles.Would we knowingly allow someone who does not believe in God to become a member?Do we try to get our members to become Christians?Do we only accept Christians as members?
There are a lot of questions that you must ask.If a person was looking for an organization that was Faith based,they should probably look in the church.(you still won't get 100%)