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Old 08-17-2006, 03:18 PM
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Parents may be cleared but wasn't there no sign of forced entry or anything? Perhaps he was hired to kidnap her.
As I recall, there was an open window to the basement where the body was discovered -- on the second search of the house.

The Boulder DA is really doing a dance about making an arrest before an investigation is completed and going out of her way to point out that the case isn't closed yet.

In addition, the suspects ex-wife claims to have been with him in Alabama or somewhere when the crime was committed.

Methinks we've not heard the last of this.

Or, to put it another way -- something smells.

ETA -- I just have to say it. The Ramseys acted very strangely in the months after the crime. They at first wouldn't cooperate with the police by not taking a lie dectector test (which they later did, and passed to be fair), and refused to be interviewed by police separately (which they finally did, again, to be fair).

While I'm sure this will open a hornet's nest, anyone who dressed their little girl up to look like a woman -- and all of the other outfits -- and were seemingly obscessed with these kiddy pageant things worry me to begin with.

In my mind, the parents aren't off the hook yet.
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Old 08-17-2006, 03:23 PM
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The psychotic ramblings bit had occurred to me, too.

Can someone clarify this for me? Weren't the Ramsey's in Boulder when JonBenet was murdered? And didn't this suspect make their acquaintance when they lived in ATL prior to moving to Boulder? Did he also move to Boulder/visiting Boulder for Christmas.
Yes, the whole family was at home in Boulder when the body was discovered.

John Ramsey is saying today that he doesn't recall ever meeting the suspect. I have not heard that he ever lived in Boulder.
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Old 08-17-2006, 03:32 PM
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ETA -- I just have to say it. The Ramseys acted very strangely in the months after the crime. They at first wouldn't cooperate with the police by not taking a lie dectector test (which they later did, and passed to be fair), and refused to be interviewed by police separately (which they finally did, again, to be fair).

As a mom, if someone killed my daughter on Christmas, I would probably act strange too.
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Old 08-17-2006, 03:43 PM
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As a mom, if someone killed my daughter on Christmas, I would probably act strange too.
Of course. I was thinking (talking) of things a little more down the road.

If one of my children were killed anytime, though, I think I would want to do everything in my power to help the authorities.

I'm not sure exactly how to explain it, but something was just strange about the way they acted.

Living this close to Boulder, we got bombarded (even more than nationally, believe it or not) by this story and all of its little intricacies.

Then again, there are a lot of strange things and people in The Peoples Republic of Boulder -- sometimes known as "23 square miles surrounded by reality."
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Old 08-17-2006, 03:51 PM
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Then again, there are a lot of strange things and people in The Peoples Republic of Boulder -- sometimes knows at "23 square miles surrounded by reality."
FOR REAL. Boulder is all kinds of jacked.
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Old 08-17-2006, 03:59 PM
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Is anyone else wondering if this suspect is telling the truth, or if he's gotten caught up in the story secondary to a psychiatric disorder?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the case solved, but I have a funny feeling about this guy. Of course, maybe his potential psychiatric disorder caused him to do it...

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Especially considering that his wife is insisting that he was with her in Alabama on vacation when the murder happened.
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Old 08-17-2006, 04:05 PM
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Especially considering that his wife is insisting that he was with her in Alabama on vacation when the murder happened.
Actually, from what I've read and heard, she says they were living in Alabama.
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Old 08-17-2006, 04:07 PM
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Actually, from what I've read and heard, she says they were living in Alabama.
Okay. They were living in Alabama, not vacationing. I don't know where I heard that, but CNN also says living.
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Old 08-17-2006, 04:15 PM
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FOR REAL. Boulder is all kinds of jacked.
And this from a former almost resident.

Well, a few miles up the Canyon.
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Old 08-17-2006, 04:19 PM
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Of course. I was thinking (talking) of things a little more down the road.

If one of my children were killed anytime, though, I think I would want to do everything in my power to help the authorities.

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Does that include helping them convict you? If you were the prime suspect in a crime that you didn't commit would you help the authorities?
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Old 08-17-2006, 05:11 PM
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The way this guy acts and carries himself definitely makes me believe a psychiatric disorder is just waiting to be diagnosed! He's just weird!
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Old 08-17-2006, 05:35 PM
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Does that include helping them convict you? If you were the prime suspect in a crime that you didn't commit would you help the authorities?
Thanks Max. That's my point. They wouldn't cooperate, and it makes some folks think they were protecting themselves from something by not taking the tests or talking to the authorities. Guilty or not, their behavior doesn't look too good.

ETA that to the best of my memory, the Boulder Police and/or District Attorney's office have never called the Ramseys a suspect -- prime or otherwise.

I believe the term they used was that the family was under "an umbrella of suspicion."
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Old 08-17-2006, 06:40 PM
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There have been reports that the Boulder police botched the case and there were a lot of cover ups in the department. Also, there's theories that the FBI leaked to the media that the Ramseys were suspected of murder so that they might be able to force a confession out of them. The whole case is just weird. If Patsy Ramsey is innocent for sure, I feel bad that she never got to see the day where she was vindicated.
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:26 PM
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While I'm sure this will open a hornet's nest, anyone who dressed their little girl up to look like a woman -- and all of the other outfits -- and were seemingly obscessed with these kiddy pageant things worry me to begin with.

In my mind, the parents aren't off the hook yet.
At the very least, they sexualized their daughter since she was a toddler! That's pretty sick in and of itself. I wouldn't be surprised if she hadn't been victimized several times by more than one person in her life. I mean, her parents more or less set her up for it.

This guy has had a history of pedophilia-based crimes, and he was arrested in Thailand of all places--a haven for pedophiles.
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:01 AM
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No proof, but I don't think this guy did it.
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