National Gay Greek Survey

[Kevin]

Originally posted by saetex
I dont know one person that has gone through a proper pledgeship, with hazing, that did not say it was one of the most memorable experiences in their lives. Most common answer - "Best worst time in my life."

So you're essentially admitting here on a forum that your national officers probably read that SAE hazes at UT.

Brilliant.

[AndreaJo8648]

Originally posted by shinerbock
Yeah I agree, I don't see my fraternity ever bidding a gay person. As to the hazing comments, I assume you are kidding, but most hazing does not involve anything sexual or nude. I really have no desire to see any pledge naked. I think the hazing that pledges say is good, are those that bring the pledge class together. Struggling to overcome an obstacle is a good way to bond.

I agree with that statement. Although my sorority was the last pledge class to be hazed it was the best time of my life. In my opinion we were closer for it. Although I definetly do not condone hazing and my sorority does not condone it. It upsets our alumni but they'll get over it...eventually.

[PiKA2001]

Originally posted by shinerbock
Struggling to overcome an obstacle is a good way to bond.

So true. I don't agree with hazing in the sense of making people drink alcohol or doing things that are DANGEROUS to themselves or others but modern definitions of "hazing" are just a little rediculous. Maybe it's because i'm in the service and have had much WORSE "hazing" done there but people need to realize what hazing truley is.

*I predict in the future pledging will be considered "hazing" and all people will automatically be members of said group once signing the bid card.

[AndreaJo8648]

Originally posted by PiKA2001
So true. I don't agree with hazing in the sense of making people drink alcohol or doing things that are DANGEROUS to themselves or others but modern definitions of "hazing" are just a little rediculous. Maybe it's because i'm in the service and have had much WORSE "hazing" done there but people need to realize what hazing truley is.

*I predict in the future pledging will be considered "hazing" and all people will automatically be members of said group once signing the bid card.

I'll agree with that, I mean our old Greek advisor from last year told us that she wanted us to basically bake cookies and sin coombiya together!

Originally posted by AndreaJo8648
I agree with that statement. Although my sorority was the last pledge class to be hazed it was the best time of my life. In my opinion we were closer for it. Although I definetly do not condone hazing and my sorority does not condone it. It upsets our alumni but they'll get over it...eventually.

You got pictures of your Sigma Delta Sigma pledge class at Tiffin being hazed?

I know of one fraternity alumnus who would just LOVE to see them!

OH BOY!

[saetex]

Originally posted by ktsnake
So you're essentially admitting here on a forum that your national officers probably read that SAE hazes at UT.

Brilliant.

How in the hell did you get that out of what I typed???? Nice try moron. I didn't say one damn thing about what we do at UT, why would I tell any of you that. I said that me and pretty much every guy that I know loved their pledgship and everything that we had to do. Again, it was the worst best time of my life. You need to read a little better and not try so hard.
I didn't admit one thing about what WE do.....try again sport. Oh, but i guess since you are a moderator you can say whatever you want. Tell me what I said about the University of Texas or the SAE National Officers, and I'll shut up.