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10-07-2005, 10:37 AM
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Re: Woman sues Southwest airlines: asked to leave flight due to offensive T-shirt
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Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
Heasley told the newspaper that she agreed to cover her shirt with a sweatshirt, but it slipped as she slept.
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This is the part I'm confused by.... How the Hell is it possible to sleep on a plane and be able to move around enough to have your SWEATSHIRT "slip" somewhere that makes it possible to see the profanity on your t-shirt?  Maybe It's a different kind of sweatshirt than I'm thinking... But whatever.
I agree that if they refund her money then they have done nothing wrong.
Edited because maybe she didn't actually put the sweatshirt ON, just covered up with it. So that brings the question.... Why didn't she put it on?
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10-07-2005, 10:41 AM
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I think the whole thing is silly. I do think "patently offensive" is vague and given the divide on so many issues, that is a high standard. For every person on the plane who was offended, there is probably one who wasn't and another who thought "wish I had that shirt."
Ultimately, the list of things for which airlines can keep your money and not give you service is VERY long and unlike any other buisness you can imagine. If they give her the money back it will be PR and not a lawsuit or anything else.
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10-07-2005, 11:14 AM
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Re: Re: Woman sues Southwest airlines: asked to leave flight due to offensive T-shirt
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Originally posted by Lindz928
...maybe she didn't actually put the sweatshirt ON, just covered up with it. So that brings the question.... Why didn't she put it on?
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That's my guess. I wondered about that, too.
As to being offensive to people, I suspect there were parents traveling with children, elderly people, religious folks and others who would be highly offended.
Seems to me that this goes beyond Politically Correct to a simple matter of good taste.
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10-07-2005, 11:19 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Woman sues Southwest airlines: asked to leave flight due to offensive T-shirt
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Seems to me that this goes beyond Politically Correct to a simple matter of good taste.
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I agree!
I do think that some people wear things only for shock value. Then, they get offended when people actually find them shocking.
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10-07-2005, 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by preciousjeni
I don't see an issue with a private business asking her to leave. But, she should DEFINITELY get a refund! They didn't fulfill the service for her.
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Seriously.
As a business, you have the right to refuse service, but you don't have the right to take their money and THEN refuse service.
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10-07-2005, 01:44 PM
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I think everyone pretty much agrees that the airline should refund her money.
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10-07-2005, 01:45 PM
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"Fockers" is now an offensive word?! Sweetness!
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10-07-2005, 01:47 PM
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"Fockers" is now an offensive word?! Sweetness!
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It didn't say Fockers...it said the word kinda like Fockers...
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10-07-2005, 02:28 PM
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It didn't say Fockers...it said the word kinda like Fockers...
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i'm not talking about the shirt. I'm talknig about the word "Fockers" and if it's offensive or not. I use it all the time and it's finally time that people find it offensive!
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10-07-2005, 05:04 PM
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I am very sadened by some of the posts above.
She does have rights to express Her Self! Oh, Patriotic Act., Not.
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10-07-2005, 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by Kimmie1913
I think the whole thing is silly. I do think "patently offensive" is vague and given the divide on so many issues, that is a high standard. For every person on the plane who was offended, there is probably one who wasn't and another who thought "wish I had that shirt."
Ultimately, the list of things for which airlines can keep your money and not give you service is VERY long and unlike any other buisness you can imagine. If they give her the money back it will be PR and not a lawsuit or anything else.
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True, but I'm sure more people would have been offended had it said F*** fill in the blank".
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10-07-2005, 10:22 PM
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Quote:
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It didn't say Fockers...it said the word kinda like Fockers...
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This is what I thought the shirt said too. If it had profanity on it then she needed to either cover the thing up, flip it inside out, or get off. Whatever her political views were - she didn't use common sense.
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10-07-2005, 11:44 PM
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"Fockers" is now an offensive word?! Sweetness!
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Message follows... I spell: Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo Echo Romeo Sierra. Repeat: Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo Echo Romeo Sierra. Acknowledge, out.
The media was just 'cleverly' disguising a patently offensive word so as not to offend the sense and sensibilities of the great, unwashed, raggedy-ass masses!
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10-07-2005, 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by Tickled Pink 2
This is what I thought the shirt said too. If it had profanity on it then she needed to either cover the thing up, flip it inside out, or get off. Whatever her political views were - she didn't use common sense.
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The shirt said, "Meet the Fuckers" with pictures of Pres.Bush, Cheney, C.Rice, and maybe a couple of others on it.
Quite frankly I didn't dig the shirt and I'm glad that because she refused to change her shirt and her sweater "slipped" off she got off the plane. The airline however, SHOULD refund her money. I just can't stand ADULTS who wear offensive shirts like that when there could be children around. I'm sorry by my neice right now is learning to read and is trying to decipher everything and if she seen a shirt like that I'd kick that person in the nuts (whether they had any or not).
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10-08-2005, 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by DeltAlum
I think they had every right to ask her to either cover the offending shirt or leave the aircraft.
They're running a business. They own the airplane. They could lose customers who were offended.
Businesses have been sued for sexual harassment for having pictures of scantily clad women on the walls in their buildings. It wouldn't surprize me to see the airline get sued if the right person was on that flight and chose to make a stink.
I don't have a problem with their decision in this case.
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I don't have a problem with it either. Good for the airline!
ETA: As a parent, I would have been pretty ticked off if my child saw that shirt, and I probably would have complained about it.
Also, I do think the airline should refund her money for the part of the flight that she missed.
Last edited by dzrose93; 10-08-2005 at 08:58 AM.
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