Univ. of Toronto Recruitment - Page 2

PenguinTrax · #1 09-21-2005, 12:11 PM

That behavior is appalling. If the PNMs will sign an affadavit that they were encouraged to not sign a bid in favor of COR, then you have grounds for a judicial hearing and associated discipline. Your NPC delegates should be made aware of the problem immediately.

AGDee · #2 09-21-2005, 06:22 PM

I have notified our NPC delegate.

I believe this is a side effect of having a Chapter Total set that is way too high for the campus and therefore, having all chapters doing COR all year every year. After taking quota, they are still under Total.

I hope that can be changed.

Dee

Taualumna · #3 09-21-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by AGDee
I have notified our NPC delegate.

I believe this is a side effect of having a Chapter Total set that is way too high for the campus and therefore, having all chapters doing COR all year every year. After taking quota, they are still under Total.

I hope that can be changed.

Dee

I hope that total can be lowered too. They apparently talk about changing it every year, but it's never done!

SmartBlondeGPhB · #4 09-21-2005, 07:34 PM

I second the comment about contacting our NPC Rep. Let me know if you need Betty's email (tried to pm you this info).

AAgammagirl · #5 09-21-2005, 07:49 PM

SmartBlondeGPhB-
i have cleaned out my PM box.
i would appreciate any insight into this matter.
thanks.

AAgammagirl · #6 09-21-2005, 09:47 PM

We talk about lowering total every year but it just never seems to happen. i think we may all have some wishful thinking that we will actually reach 45.
i hope that this situation can be resolved in a positive manner for all chapters on campus.
(btw, i will not reveal which chapter has done this but i will say it was not mine or taualumna's).
oh and yes, COR is done all year (school yr that is) on our campus.

AGDee · #7 09-21-2005, 10:30 PM

The new NPC recommendations are that you evaluate Total on a yearly basis. Therefore, even if you lower it, then you have a really good recruitment year all around, then you raise it by 5. Then you have another really good recruitment and you raise it by 5 again.

Think about how much fun you could be having and how much more relaxed everybody would be if you didn't have to recruit constantly. (Of course, we are always recruiting in the way we role model leadership on campus, but not in having planned events for it). Wouldn't it be nice to relax for a semester and focus on philanthropy, mixers, academics and sisterhood (not necessarily in that order

)?

Dee

AAgammagirl · #8 09-21-2005, 11:58 PM

all i can say AGDee is:
Hell yes!!!

KappaKittyCat · #9 09-22-2005, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by AGDee
The new NPC recommendations are that you evaluate Total on a yearly basis. Therefore, even if you lower it, then you have a really good recruitment year all around, then you raise it by 5. Then you have another really good recruitment and you raise it by 5 again.

Think about how much fun you could be having and how much more relaxed everybody would be if you didn't have to recruit constantly. (Of course, we are always recruiting in the way we role model leadership on campus, but not in having planned events for it). Wouldn't it be nice to relax for a semester and focus on philanthropy, mixers, academics and sisterhood (not necessarily in that order?

I'm so all for that it's not even funny. I came from a a school with the same situation and everyone was just strung out all the time with COR. What's worse is that we were on trimesters, so we had fall COR, winter FR, winter COR, and spring COR to deal with. Having deferred recruitment meant that nobody was at total when the year started, so everybody had a fall pledge class. That's fine. However, all chapters were still under total after winter FR, and that's (IMHO) not fine. A small percentage of chapters, maybe, but the majority should be at total after FR.

I also think that recruiting ALL the time takes away some of the mystery and excitement that comes with being part of what is essentially an exclusive organization. If the opportunity's always there, people have an easier time blowing you off than they do if it only comes 'round once a year. From an internal chapter perspective, it puts a strain on the whole chapter. It's a financial burden to be recruiting all the time. Your NM and membership people never get to relax. Chapters are always in direct competition, which can lead to cattiness rather than cooperation. There's a stronger drive to dirty rush. Members feel stressed because they're always pushed to get more women. It can make NMs feel like they're not good enough because there's a constant drive for more. Also, it can lead to a sense of desparation in the chapter that results in lowering standards (e.g., grades) in order to increase the size of a pledge class.

And I know that one chapter on my campus took no end of grief from their HQ for not being at total, even though they were the largest chapter on campus for five years running, always bid quota, and CORed on top of it. HQ just didn't understand that total was not set at a reasonable level for the campus and they were doing the best they could. This chapter also experienced a lot of inner turmoil because they weren't necessarily being choosy at the outset and wound up with a few women who just wreaked havoc on their organization before resigning or (worse) causing other members to resign.

(Just an aside, according to NPC every chapter has the right to take quota, whether through FR or COR, so lowering total wouldn't necessarily help the issue with women wanting to drop out of FR in favor of COR for one particular chapter. However, the push would be much less if a chapter knew it would only have one or two spots after FR, not ten or twenty.)

PenguinTrax · #10 09-22-2005, 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by KappaKittyCat
(Just an aside, according to NPC every chapter has the right to take quota, whether through FR or COR, so lowering total wouldn't necessarily help the issue with women wanting to drop out of FR in favor of COR for one particular chapter. However, the push would be much less if a chapter knew it would only have one or two spots after FR, not ten or twenty.)

Exactly - if the PNMs and the chapter both know that they will never achieve total during FR, then there is no reason to go through FR - everyone can just get a bid to whatever chapter they desire (so to speak).