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Old 08-31-2005, 09:05 PM
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My favorite answer to the intelligent design debate: the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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Old 09-04-2005, 05:21 PM
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Old 09-04-2005, 09:03 PM
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All this controversy over a subject taught for a week.

All this controversy over a subject that young students have no possible contribution to while they are learning basic sciences.

-Rudey
Ya know, I actually agree with this statement. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in Intelligent Design. As a scientist, it makes me cringe that people can still believe in it. When I learned as a public school teacher, I was required to present "other theories" to evolution, I was pissed. I was ready to go the director of science, the Board of Education, the superintendent, whoever to fight it.

Then I realized, I teach 7th grade. And the time line for teaching "other theories" is scheduled to be roughly 1/4 of a 40 minute period.

Maybe it makes a difference for high schoolers, but it certianly isn't worth my effort to fight the system. I plan to say something like this: Evolution is a theory; there is no way to test it during anyone's lifetime so it will most likely remain a theory with excellent supporting evidence. Other theories exsit about life, however none are as plausible as evolution. If you are interested in the other theories, I suggest you research them on your own time.
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Old 09-05-2005, 02:07 AM
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All this controversy over a subject taught for a week.

All this controversy over a subject that young students have no possible contribution to while they are learning basic sciences.

-Rudey
A week? At my high school (Catholic, no less) we didn't even spend a full class period on it. My biology teacher said he was a science teacher and not a theologian, and taught evolution.

As far as I.D. being taught in schools....eh....I'm not sure. Because there is little to no evidence to back it up, I wouldn't spend more than 10 minutes talking about it. But Rudey's right. If its going to just be lightly touched, I don't think people should get all worked up over this issue.
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Old 09-05-2005, 06:57 AM
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So is this accurate:

Intelligent design is pretty much the "theory" of choice for people who are too stupid to understand the Bible in non-literal terms, or whose lives are so dominated by religion that they can't understand the world in any other terms?

I tried to make that statement as extreme as I could -- if you disagree, please explain. I want to try to understand the other point of view.

The Bible says that a day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day. So when it says He created the world in 6 days, maybe it was really 6000 years. But honestly, He's God, if it says He created the world in 6 days, I believe He created the world in 6 days. One day, I will ask him.
Parts of evolution, such as natural selection/survival of the fittest, that makes sense. Adam lived to be 930 years old (Gen 5:5), so something obviously happned between the creation of man and now.
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Old 09-05-2005, 09:25 AM
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The Bible says that a day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day. So when it says He created the world in 6 days, maybe it was really 6000 years. But honestly, He's God, if it says He created the world in 6 days, I believe He created the world in 6 days. One day, I will ask him.
Parts of evolution, such as natural selection/survival of the fittest, that makes sense. Adam lived to be 930 years old (Gen 5:5), so something obviously happned between the creation of man and now.
Woah, woah, woah...

See what you are supporting is Creationsim (gotta admit I've never met anyone who was a Creationist), not ID - the basic principles of ID don't believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible, particularlly when it comes to time lines and such (basically because those where concretely shown to be wrong centuries ago). ID basically states that God created everything, and guides the natural selection - but that natural selection only invovles Microevolutionary changes not Macroevolutionary changes.
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Old 09-05-2005, 11:13 AM
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My favorite answer to the intelligent design debate: the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Best site EVER.

Especially impressed in this guy's research. Global warming caused by the declining number of pirates... who'd've thunk?
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Old 09-05-2005, 11:57 AM
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My favorite answer to the intelligent design debate: the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
I so want a mug. And I want to present this in addition to ID and evolution. Seriously, I am.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:21 PM
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Intelligent Design = Creationism in a Cheap Tuxedo

Edited to add: I think I love the Flying Spaghetti Monster... I too am getting a mug.

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Old 09-05-2005, 01:25 PM
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Old 09-05-2005, 02:15 PM
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Go Flying Spaghetti Monster!

Actually I'm fine with creationism and intelligent design being taught in school...as part of a comparative religion class or any other sort of religion class. NOT in science class.

Heck, you could probably do a class just about different theories of creation. There are loads to choose from from all different cultures.
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