Welcome to Denver, home of stupid people.

[JenMarie]

Check your local SPCA. The one here is offering a "Pay to Spay (or Neuter)" program where they fix Pit Bulls and their mixes for free.

/random aside

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by valkyrie
You don't think it's fair that he was mauled by a pit bull? What is the solution to this problem?

Personally, I strongly believe that NO dogs or cats should be breeding until the ones who already exist have homes.

Yes I don't think it's fair that this innocent child just outside playing got mauled by a pit bull. It's been happening ALOT lately in the Detroit area. I'm gona read more on this because I haven't gotten a chance to and I'm interested in knowing about it, but if I'm thinking correctly the muzzle law?

Again I think the owners are at fault and not the dog. If dogs aren't trained they don't know any better and people should keep watch after their pets and not let them run wild. Clearly it is the owner's fault.

[CUGreekgirl]

Yes I don't think it's fair that this innocent child just outside playing got mauled by a pit bull. It's been happening ALOT lately in the Detroit area. I'm gona read more on this because I haven't gotten a chance to and I'm interested in knowing about it, but if I'm thinking correctly the muzzle law?

Pit bulls get a bad rap because they are the ones that make the news. They are strong muscular dogs and when they bite, they do damage. How many chihuahuas, poodles, cockers spaniels, etc. bite children every day but never make the news?

The thing is about the muzzle law is only responsible citizens are going to muzzle their Pit bulls and its not the responsible owner's dogs that are attacking. Its the dogs of irresponsible people who chain them up, starve them, let them run all over the neighborhood etc.

[kddani]

Originally posted by CUGreekgirl
Pit bulls get a bad rap because they are the ones that make the news. They are strong muscular dogs and when they bite, they do damage. How many chihuahuas, poodles, cockers spaniels, etc. bite children every day but never make the news?

That argument makes absolutely NO sense. Why should they make the news if they're not causing as much harm? Out of the dogs that you named, i'm guessing the only way realistically that someone could die from their bite is if it got infected or something.

Pit bulls and rottweilers and the like CAN kill and some DO kill. You admitted yourself that they do damage when they bite. It's not uncommon to hear of children or sometimes even adults being killed by one of these dogs. Knowing your dog can cause damage puts the responsibility on YOU as an owner. Just like guns, there have to be laws because some dumb asses don't take care of their own responsibilities and other people get hurt.

[CUGreekgirl]

I was just saying that Pit Bulls aren't necessarily meaner than other dogs. Hell, my poodle mix would come a lot closer to biting someone than my Pit bull would. Pit Bulls actually scored better in the temperment test than Goldens, Labs, Cockers, etc.

[jb1617]

The real issue with pit bulls and the like is not the amount of attacks, its the severity of attacks. Most times if you are bit by a poodle, you need a shot of Bactine and a band-aid. When you're bit by a pit bull, you need an ER.

That said, I do agree with you CUGreekgirl. The dog breed with the largest history of bites is the cocker spaniel. But you dont see people buying them and training them to be attack dogs the way you do with pitt bulls.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by CUGreekgirl
I was just saying that Pit Bulls aren't necessarily meaner than other dogs. Hell, my poodle mix would come a lot closer to biting someone than my Pit bull would. Pit Bulls actually scored better in the temperment test than Goldens, Labs, Cockers, etc.

I've never heard of a Golden, Lab, or Cocker to maul or kill someone. Some children have gotten KILLED by Pit Bulls in the last few months.

[kddani]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
I've never heard of a Golden, Lab, or Cocker to maul or kill someone. Some children have gotten KILLED by Pit Bulls in the last few months.

well the dog's life is OBVIOUSLY more important than some innocent child

I know no one expressly stated that here and probably no one really thinks that here, but i've seen and heard people IRL say things that pretty much amount to animals being more important to protect than children, and that's sorta sick

[PhoenixAzul]

So if one dog bites one child...it's allright to kill hundreds of dogs who will never bite a child? Just on the off chance that they *might* bite someone. Tippy *might* bite someone , then again, she may decide to stay in the air conditioning all day long. This legislature sounds too much like a "racial" profile to me...and guilt by association. I'm all for punishing the animals who train these dogs to do things like that, but it really isn't the fault of the dog. A properly trained and socialized pit bull isn't going to gnaw poor little Johny's arm off on a Tuesday, just because he's a pit bull.

and also, it reminds me of shark panic. One person gets bit by a shark...so let's go kill hundreds of them because they *might* bite someone.

and killing a dog because it "looks" like a pit bull is, in a word, bullshit. Absolute and complete BULLSHIT.

[PhoenixAzul]

and this "I'm sorry" site is the damn cutest thing I've ever seen.

[jb1617]

PhoenixAzul, that is exactly what I was going to say. And you even phrased it better than I would have.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by PhoenixAzul
A properly trained and socialized pit bull isn't going to gnaw poor little Johny's arm off on a Tuesday, just because he's a pit bull.

and also, it reminds me of shark panic. One person gets bit by a shark...so let's go kill hundreds of them because they *might* bite someone.

and killing a dog because it "looks" like a pit bull is, in a word, bullshit. Absolute and complete BULLSHIT.

My friend's pit bull was properly trained and socialized and STILL turned on him. It's fine if people wana own them, but keep them locked up unless you're walking them on a leash.

[ZTAngel]

My friend was living with a guy that owned a Pit Bull. He was also living with a sorority sister of mine that owned a cat. The Pit was very calm and good-natured. He was raised properly. One day when no one was home, we're guessing the Pit Bull and cat got into a scuffle. Kitty lost. It was a disgusting, upsetting mess.
Could this have happened with any dog breed? Certainly. But, like others have mentioned, a Pit Bull will do more damage than a Jack Russell or Cocker Spaniel. They're a muscular breed and their jaw locks.
I don't know what the solution is but I'm saying you can train a Pit Bull all you want but instinct is instinct (like in any dog)....a Pit Bull will do more damage than most dogs.

[PhoenixAzul]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
My friend's pit bull was properly trained and socialized and STILL turned on him. It's fine if people wana own them, but keep them locked up unless you're walking them on a leash.

well, yeah. THat's part of responsible ownership of any dog...when not on leash, they are indoors or restrained/fenced in a yard. No dog should be allowed to roam the streets unleashed...but that's a leash law, not a BSL.

[PM_Mama00]

Yeah they're GREAT dogs!

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/4758109/detail.html

http://www.clickondetroit.com/family...39/detail.html

And these were just posted TODAY.