And the Search ends for WMD - Page 2

Phasad1913 · #16 01-13-2005, 02:52 PM

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Sorry Phasad1913, but you are not the president and you are not in his administration or on his staff so why are you trying to blame THEM and their reasons for the war?

I can BLAME them because what they said was not true. I couldn't think of a better cause for blame.

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And again, people across the spectrum supported the war.

That doesn't mean a hill of beans to me. Masses of people thinking a certain way have been WRONG before.

Rudey · #17 01-13-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by Phasad1913
I can BLAME them because what they said was not true. I couldn't think of a better cause for blame.

That doesn't mean a hill of beans to me. Masses of people thinking a certain way have been WRONG before.

So they were wrong. They didn't lie. But again, I supported the president and he represented my views. Kerry and Clinton did as well. We're all good citizens.

You need a big ass hug is what you need now!

-Rudey

Phasad1913 · #18 01-13-2005, 03:08 PM

You are right, I really do need a hug... but that is a WHOLE other issue.

You can try to say that they were wrong, but we all know that they covered their ears when people tried to lay out the truth behind the WMD theory. They wanted to go to war that badly.

Anyway, what's done is done. Too late to do anything about it now.

IowaStatePhiPsi · #19 01-13-2005, 03:30 PM

pssst- the WMD are in my pants.

Rudey · #20 01-13-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
pssst- the WMD are in my pants.

The IEAE inspectors took a trip there and said the area was a barren wasteland.

-Rudey

RUgreek · #21 01-13-2005, 05:45 PM

While everyone is bickering over the end of this search there still is one lingering question left unanswered in my mind. In the Iraqi-Iranian war, there were many biological and chemical weapons used on both sides. So much that there were stockpiles even after the conflict ended abruptly. If weapons inspectors couldn't find any WMD's, then where in the world are those unused weapons?!?

My opinion, already in the possession of Syria, Iran, and probably Saudi Arabia. And no, I don't accept that they were all used up or never existed as an explanation...

DeltAlum · #22 01-13-2005, 06:30 PM

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My opinion, already in the possession of Syria, Iran, and probably Saudi Arabia. And no, I don't accept that they were all used up or never existed as an explanation...

That's possible. It's also possible that the wepons and their attendent equipment were destroyed after the first Mid-East war as Iraq has claimed all along.

They don't have a whole lot of credibility, but it's not out of the question.

We haven't been able to prove otherwise.

PhiPsiRuss · #23 01-13-2005, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by KSig RC
how bout one word:

geopolitics

now you respond to that one.

I'll respond. That's exactly why we went in.

Lets take a look at the map:

If you know anything about the region, its extremely clear.

DeltAlum · #24 01-13-2005, 06:51 PM

Russ,

I'm curious as to why you deleted your post alleging that there was "never" any attempt by the Administration to tie Bin Laden, etc. to the arguments to go to war?

The fact is that, even if they weren't cited as official reasons, the inferences were certainly strong.

Rudey · #25 01-13-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
That's possible. It's also possible that the wepons and their attendent equipment were destroyed after the first Mid-East war as Iraq has claimed all along.

They don't have a whole lot of credibility, but it's not out of the question.

We haven't been able to prove otherwise.

We haven't found evidence of their destruction.

-Rudey

PhiPsiRuss · #26 01-13-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Russ,

I'm curious as to why you deleted your post alleging that there was "never" any attempt by the Administration to tie Bin Laden, etc. to the arguments to go to war?

The fact is that, even if they weren't cited as official reasons, the inferences were certainly strong.

Because I didn't want to jump into the thread with 8,000 different angles. I decided that I wanted to post about why we went in, not about why we didn't.

The Administration gave multiple arguments about why we went in, and bin Laden was not one of those reasons.

The media chose to ignore the other reasons. For example, Eli Weisel, the Nobel Peace Prize winner, and authority on genocide, met with President Bush in the first week of March, 2003. He urged President Bush to proceed with the regime change, but not because of WMD. Mr. Weisel urged President Bush to remove Saddam Hussein because the regime was persistently genocidal. The Bush administration held a press conference to discuss this meeting. It was one day news.

DeltAlum · #27 01-13-2005, 07:18 PM

Sorry, but I don't recall many speeches by President Bush, Vice President Cheney or Secretaries Powell or Rice that didn't strongly infer connections between Bin Laden, 9/11, WMD and other reasons given for going to war.

I said that before the conflict started, and I haven't seen anything to change my mind to date.

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Shortfuse · #28 01-14-2005, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss

The Administration gave multiple arguments about why we went in, and bin Laden was not one of those reasons.

Iraqi ties to Al Queda (a org that Bin Laden "leads") doesn't ring a bell to you. If you're looking it was right around the first time whether WMDs were actually there or not. You might want to check up on that.

About WMDs, of course they were there during the Iran-Iraq war, because they were supplied by the US and Great Britain. Could they all been used up? Doubt it. Moved possible but I'm willing to bet these were moved a LOOOONGG time ago. Another possiblilty could be that the bombings by Clinton and the Persian Gulf war successfully destroyed MOST OF THE WEAPONS .

Phasad1913 · #29 01-14-2005, 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
The IEAE inspectors took a trip there and said the area was a barren wasteland.

-Rudey

ROFLMAO!!!

Kevin · #30 01-14-2005, 10:20 AM

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We haven't found evidence of their destruction.

-Rudey

Nor could the Iraqis provide the evidence. I have a feeling that right now, Saddam sure would have liked to have the evidence of the destruction of those weapons. He hasn't been able to murder an innocent in more than a year!