Dubya's in Canada - Page 2

Rudey · #16 12-01-2004, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Simply that if this had happened here, there's at least a resonable chance it would have gotten out of hand. It doesn't seem to me that we don't have a good history of peaceful or passive protests.

I think you're just making an assumption on this. Canadians have violent protests and so does the rest of the world. In fact for quite a few of the violent protests, people travel from country to country and are able to wreak havoc protesting all sorts of things from food to debt to war.

-Rudey

DeltAlum · #17 12-01-2004, 03:38 PM

You may be right, but I've sure gotten gassed a lot of times at what were supposed to be "peaceful" demonstrations.

I don't hear about that too much in Canada.

CanadianTeke · #18 12-01-2004, 05:31 PM

I was kinda hoping for some gassing, it would have made for great footage. The protests in Quebec City for the FTAA provided for alot of gassing as well as police beatdowns, but that was planned months in advance, and alot of protestors mobilized from around the world. This visit was only decided a couple of weeks ago, so there were only a little time to get people organized. I guess 5000 isn't a bad number for very little notice.

DeltAlum · #19 12-01-2004, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by CanadianTeke
I was kinda hoping for some gassing...

With all due respect -- you're nuts. That stuff is nasty. I don't ever want to experience that again.

CanadianTeke · #20 12-01-2004, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
With all due respect -- you're nuts. That stuff is nasty. I don't ever want to experience that again.

I don't doubt it is, it was kinda a double edged sword, we had a prime camera posistion so the video would have been awesome. However the fact that we would have had to breath the gas in would have sucked a whole lot. I guess at the time our thinking was that the better the footage we get, the better our show is.

ThetokenCanuck · #21 12-02-2004, 01:26 AM

I was hoping that Jon Stewart would do something on the Bush visit to Canada..no such luck..

Well we already had enough "positive" American coverage..i mean why wouldnt the Americans be receptive to Carolyn Parish? ......

RACooper · #22 12-02-2004, 01:30 AM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
With all due respect -- you're nuts. That stuff is nasty. I don't ever want to experience that again.

Cosign... nasty stuff... cringe every time I get a wiff of something even smelling like the Gas Hut.

On another note guys from the ceremonial duty weren't too impressed with GWB... he choose to ignore/snuff the previous PM, someone he has met many times... Even if you don't agree with your someone politically, you at least make the effort to show some modicum of respect (or so I've been raised)... so Bush, since you've demonstrated that you're a petty sack of sh*t ... thank-you for leaving.

Rudey · #23 12-02-2004, 12:04 PM

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I am a petty sack of sh*t

Some might agree with you.

-Rudey

RACooper · #24 12-02-2004, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Some might agree with you.

-Rudey

Demonstrating the intellectual integrity of your boy Bush huh?

Must be convient to pervert or change the world to fit your viewpoint...

Please stop violating my, and others, intellectual property with your petty editing and misrepresentation as it violates the rules you agreed to in order to post on this board...

"you warrant that you will not use this BB to post any material which is knowingly false"

Purposely misquoting or re-editing is in fact knowingly posting material that you know to be false.

Rudey · #25 12-02-2004, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by RACooper
Demonstrating the intellectual integrity of your boy Bush huh? Must be convient to pervert or change the world to fit your viewpoint...

Please stop violating my, and others, intellectual property with your petty editing and misrepresentation as it violates the rules you agreed to in order to post on this board...

"you warrant that you will not use this BB to post any material which is knowingly false"

Purposely misquoting or re-editing is in fact knowingly posting material that you know to be false.

Nobody posted false info. Some think that about you. And you have no intellectual property since it's not patented. This doesn't even make sense.

Again, if you want to come on here insulting and cursing at someone, don't be upset if someone holds the same views about you.

Now don't even talk about violating rules after you come on here cursing, insulting, and also have a history of threatening to kill someone on here.

-Rudey

RACooper · #26 12-02-2004, 10:42 PM

Just saw a review of Bush's visit to Halifax and the protests there... actaully pretty classy - no fighting, no police really needed, no arrests - just people with various flags (Iraq, Canadian, UN, and US) and a whole lot of protest placards... I have to agree with the Metro paper: My favourite was the one by the guy from Dalhousie - "Frodo Failed... Bush Has The Ring".

Lady Pi Phi · #27 12-03-2004, 10:29 AM

Now that he's gone. Did this little visit help? I doubt it.
It seemed more like a photo op than anything else.

Rudey · #28 12-03-2004, 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
Did this little visit help?

Help what?

-Rudey

RACooper · #29 12-03-2004, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
Now that he's gone. Did this little visit help? I doubt it.
It seemed more like a photo op than anything else.

I don't think it helped at all... things are still pretty much the same. It was pretty much a photo-op for Bush... with nothing of substance happening at all.

Let's look at the issues discussed (or were slated to be discussed):

Softwood Lumber - is still there with no movement on the issue.
Beef Ban - again despite the fact Bush enjoyed his steak, no really movement again.
Missile Defense - Bush brought it up, despite Martin's hopes he wouldn't.
Iraq War - Bush defended his policy using a quote from Mackenzie King's address to the house explaining Canada's entry into WW2... ignoring both the total speach and context.
U.N. - well I great proposal for change was presented, and Layton tried to bring it up with Bush (and was brushed aside)- unfortunately the US rep at the UN just resigned.
9/11 - Bush finally got around to thanking some people (not the country) for taking in 40000 stranded Americans... just too bad most of the people he was thanking were outside protesting.
Ottawa Treaty - no indication that Bush or the US have even considered signing onto the land-mine ban with the rest of the world (well other than the so-called Axis of Evil).
Kyoto - again no indication that Bush will even consider this treaty either...
ICC - again another treaty that the world has signed onto that Bush opposes...
North American Security - some discussion but still the problem of racial/religious profiling exists at border crossings - again despite protests.