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Old 10-18-2004, 12:44 PM
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But when it comes to the general election, I vote for the candidate--not the party.
I think that is what people should do. It is unfortunate that so many people hold an allegiance to one party and will overlook a quality candidate from another.

People need to vote on issues, not parties.
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Old 10-18-2004, 12:57 PM
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I think that is what people should do. It is unfortunate that so many people hold an allegiance to one party and will overlook a quality candidate from another.

People need to vote on issues, not parties.
I so agree with you and Ladygreek. It is and will always be about the issues, not the party.
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Old 10-18-2004, 02:47 PM
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But with the now Independence Party, even registering as an Independent has become confusing to some. And can you vote in primaries?
unfortunately, i cannot vote in primaries - only the general elections...
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Old 10-18-2004, 03:00 PM
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LOL! The article was a group of Republicans saying "Look at us...we're 'Republicans' and we're voting for Kerry." I'm not sure I fully grasp why they have to be Republicans voting for Kerry rather than citizens voting for Kerry. If your political ideology is so strongly Republican that you would register as a Republican, what would then possess you to vote Democrat?

I think my biggest problem is that my first thought at seeing the site was "this is a ploy by Democrats to try to sway some wavering Republicans."

Disclaimer: I'm neither Republican nor Democrat.
Based on some of the editorials, it seems as though what they are saying is they are voting against GW because they do not believe he represents the ideals of hte republican party and therefore they will not support him for another term.

I work with my state legislature and the best politicians republican and democrat always tell me that people who are married to party lines are fools and too often let that force them to make bad policy. Unfortunately they are all called to do so on certain issues but they all believe that when the debate focuses on the issues and the ideology then better law is written. We are in a two party system and there is nothing wrong with acknowledging you ideals run with one or the other. Only those registered with a party are permitted to vote in certain elections (the primary for example) As long as you use your mind to analyze the candidates and make your own best choice, that is how it is supposed to work. Blindly voting for someone for any reason (party affiliation, race, gender, etc.) is pretty foolish to me.

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Old 10-19-2004, 10:03 AM
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Thumbs up Democrats for Bush

Here is a group with the same premise...
www.Democrats4Bush.com



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Blindly voting for someone for any reason (party affiliation, race, gender, etc.) is pretty foolish to me.
This I definitely agree with. As someone who voted for Al Gore in 2000, I am so glad I broke from blindly following a party that is so far from my core beliefs and that is the only "acceptable" party in the black community to vote for. I think it goes beyone voting issues..I think people should also pray about who to vote for and examine their own morals and character when selecting a President. I think who you vote for reflects greatly on the values you hold near and dear to your heart.
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Old 10-19-2004, 01:43 PM
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Re: Democrats for Bush

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[B]Here is a group with the same premise...
www.Democrats4Bush.com

This I definitely agree with. As someone who voted for Al Gore in 2000, I am so glad I broke from blindly following a party that is so far from my core beliefs and that is the only "acceptable" party in the black community to vote for. I think it goes beyone voting issues..I think people should also pray about who to vote for and examine their own morals and character when selecting a President. I think who you vote for reflects greatly on the values you hold near and dear to your heart.


I would say I almost agree with that except I do not believe that any president or candidate has ever shown the American people who they really are or what their beliefs or morals really are. This is politics and they are all out to win an election and all to some extent do that by any means necessary. Living in the Washington area and knowing some of the moves not in the public eye that the President and his Administration has made would make many rethink their estimation of his values and morals. I think some of it would give you pause. Does that mean you should not vote for him as President? No. But if we want to make the selection of our leader about morals we need to be looking at a whole other kind of information about them than what we currently get as surface lip service into what they say that they believe. Some actions speak way louder than words. I think that same thing could be said about each President and candidate.

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Old 10-19-2004, 02:32 PM
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Re: Re: Democrats for Bush

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But if we want to make the selection of our leader about morals we need to be looking at a whole other kind of information about them than what we currently get as surface lip service into what they say that they believe. Some actions speak way louder than words. I think that same thing could be said about each President and candidate.
Maybe I didnt articulate what I meant well enough..but I'm saying to examine oneself and look at your own morals..and then line them up with what the candidate DOES. Of course we don't know the candidates personally...and one doesnt have to live in Washington DC to know there are shady dealings on BOTH sides of the aisle...but some things are very CLEAR.
The candidate that is against abortion, gay marriage, and isn't afraid to admit he prays for fear of backlash is Dubya...and those issues trump a lot of other issuses for many.
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Old 10-20-2004, 11:37 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Democrats for Bush

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Maybe I didnt articulate what I meant well enough..but I'm saying to examine oneself and look at your own morals..and then line them up with what the candidate DOES. Of course we don't know the candidates personally...and one doesnt have to live in Washington DC to know there are shady dealings on BOTH sides of the aisle...but some things are very CLEAR.
The candidate that is against abortion, gay marriage, and isn't afraid to admit he prays for fear of backlash is Dubya...and those issues trump a lot of other issuses for many.
Osama Bin-Laden prays (5)x a day doesn't believe in gay marriages, abortions, using four letter words or sex before marriage does that means b/c of his high moral values he's a good guy?

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Old 10-21-2004, 04:49 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Democrats for Bush

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Osama Bin-Laden prays (5)x a day doesn't believe in gay marriages, abortions, using four letter words or sex before marriage does that means b/c of his high moral values he's a good guy?
Touche'
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Old 10-22-2004, 02:32 PM
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first we saw Republicans for Kerry...

now comes Bush Relatives for Kerry. to disagree so publicly is very interesting..
check it out: www.bushrelativesforkerry.com
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Old 10-22-2004, 03:12 PM
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Re: first we saw Republicans for Kerry...

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now comes Bush Relatives for Kerry. to disagree so publicly is very interesting..
check it out: www.bushrelativesforkerry.com
I think their quote"Because blood is thinner than oil!" says it all.
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Old 10-22-2004, 07:00 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Democrats for Bush

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Osama Bin-Laden prays (5)x a day doesn't believe in gay marriages, abortions, using four letter words or sex before marriage does that means b/c of his high moral values he's a good guy?
Love it!

I just want a President that I know is smarter than I am. My 4-year old nephew's got better word power than Dubya.
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Old 10-25-2004, 11:07 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Democrats for Bush

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Osama Bin-Laden prays (5)x a day doesn't believe in gay marriages, abortions, using four letter words or sex before marriage does that means b/c of his high moral values he's a good guy?
I would respond with something factual...if i thought there were open minds regarding this issue in this forum...NOT!
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Old 10-25-2004, 01:30 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Democrats for Bush

Soror, I really would like to hear a response to this...


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Old 10-25-2004, 05:11 PM
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so, how would Yasser Arafat know who Osama bin Laden would support? is that on a website or in a newspaper article?
i missed that quote...
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