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06-09-2004, 07:41 PM
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Why does everyone assume it's jealousy? Just because someone doesn't like something, it's not because they're green with envy. He might have his own, very personal reasons for not liking Greek Life that much.
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06-09-2004, 07:55 PM
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haha...hey Sikes,
I USE to be the dude who was very anti fraternity. i didnt join till my second year cuz i realized my school sucks and i wasnt as big shot no more (HS)
the best way to handle the dude is just to be like..." alright man well thats cool. you are still more than welcomed to come and chill dude"
you know. the whole, kill em with kindness trick. it works dude. you are still trying to be his friend u know, but in a way you are moving on. wanting to start a new chapter in your life. if he wants to be part of it, then thats his choice. i hope he chooses to be part of it though you know, cuz it sucks losing a friend.
now...he says that AKL is gay...have fun getting raped by your fraternity brothers...why would you wanna live with 90 guys...have fun buying your friends. well shit. i still haven't figured out what to say. i normally just joke around back with them and laugh with the guy. that way it makes his comment look stupid. then he'll stop saying it ...trust me.
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06-09-2004, 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by Munchkin03
Why does everyone assume it's jealousy? Just because someone doesn't like something, it's not because they're green with envy. He might have his own, very personal reasons for not liking Greek Life that much.
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I didn't mean to imply jealousy of Greek Life, I meant jealousy that he is moving on and making new friends in college. Like someone said before, it's more about him than about Sikes and his fraternity. Most people who feel compelled to make accusations like the ones that he mentioned are typically insecure about something-it could be a variety of things but there's a lot of stuff that happens to a person when you enter college, so who knows exactly what it stems from. Point is, Sikes' friend may or may not want to be a part of the Greek system at his school, but in my opinion his actions toward Sikes definitely suggest some sort of insecurity or jealousy.
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06-09-2004, 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by OtterXO
I didn't mean to imply jealousy of Greek Life, I meant jealousy that he is moving on and making new friends in college. Like someone said before, it's more about him than about Sikes and his fraternity. Most people who feel compelled to make accusations like the ones that he mentioned are typically insecure about something-it could be a variety of things but there's a lot of stuff that happens to a person when you enter college, so who knows exactly what it stems from. Point is, Sikes' friend may or may not want to be a part of the Greek system at his school, but in my opinion his actions toward Sikes definitely suggest some sort of insecurity or jealousy.
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Or maybe it's just because he's what, 17 or 18? Immaturity is at its peak at that point. Either they'll remain friends or they won't--and that will have little to do with Greek Life.
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06-09-2004, 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by Munchkin03
Or maybe it's just because he's what, 17 or 18? Immaturity is at its peak at that point. Either they'll remain friends or they won't--and that will have little to do with Greek Life.
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Exactly my point. I think we're both saying the same thing!
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06-10-2004, 02:31 PM
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my roommate/best friend was doing something very similar. she's very anti-social and goes home on the weekends a lot, so she's never there to meet any of my sisters. one time i told her we were going to dinner and when she got in my car, i swung by the sorority house and picked up one of my sisters and we all got dinner together. it turned out that she liked her and thought she was nice. but when i was pledging, she was very vocal about the fact that she didn't like me doing it. we are from a small town and it's not looked upon as a cool thing to do. she would say things like, "i could be a delta gamma too, you know" and if she saw me wearing a DG shirt she would just be like, "ugh" and make an ugly face. but she eventually accepted it. i think for non-greeks it's hard to understand what kind of bond you have with your brothers or sisters. because of this lack of understanding, i think they feel kind of left out. i think they might feel like, "well, i thought i was her best friend, but now she does all this secret stuff with all these other girls that i don't know." and that's not cool to them. but, i agree with killing them with kindness. that makes it so much harder for them to hate greeks. that way they can see the good that we do. good luck!
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06-10-2004, 06:00 PM
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Funny how that happens!
A lot of misconceptions just need a little nudging
The horrible unknows can make people afraid. If it is finances, usually that can be worked out.
As one gets older and finds that not only did you find a lot of new friends, Brothers but if you hang in and keep in touch, you will still be friends.
None of my H S Buddys ever became Greek and most did not attend college.
One of my best Buddys and I keep in touch a lot!
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06-23-2004, 11:18 PM
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UPDATE
Surprise surprise!
So I'm in the middle of summer orientation and my anti-greek friend calls me up and the conversation goes like this..
Friend: "Matt... You'll never believe where I'm going"
Matt: "Where?"
Friend: "You'll never believe it."
Matt: "Well tell me and I'll tell you whether I believe it or not."
Friend: "I'm going to shakespeares"
Matt: "Thats great.. with who?"
Friend: "A fraternity"
Well.. apparently even tho my friend is not on the rush list, a fraternity called him and invited him out for pizza. Without much thought this anti-greek friend decided to go.
It is a very small fraternity on campus who I've heard some bad things about.. Creepy guys, etc... Which he knew nothing about... Buy I didn't tell him this. I merely called him a hypocrite, told him to have a good time and to tell me what happens...
Obviously his anti-greekness was a coverup... What still puzzles me though is why he always refused to come to AKL events with me... He knows nothing about them except they're a large house with a good reputation on campus...
Anyway... McDonalds time!
-Matt
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06-24-2004, 10:44 AM
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Now that is a classic :-) i'm glad that things seem to be looking good for you and your friend
i'm sure that he didn't want to go to events at your fraternity because it would be like admitting that he was wrong, you know? if he takes such an anti-greek stance to either convince you to drop it or just to piss you off, and then turns around and accepts your invites, it's like he's one step from losing the battle because then he'd have to open his mind to it. but i hope that he has a good time with these guys, even if they are creepy and whatnot because then that'll change his mind...and if he comes back with a negative impression, then i guess that you can always be like 'well, you need to hang out with a real fraternity, why don't you come hang out with us?'
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