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Old 06-08-2004, 03:56 PM
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I will never call it Ronald Reagan airport. To me it will ALWAYS be National Airport!

Damn I miss DC!
And when they did this--the area was in general financial troubles and it didn't help that every street sign, map, bus route, metro route, and tourist brochure had to be changed.
Oh, and you haven't missed much.
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Old 06-08-2004, 03:56 PM
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And there was JFK. He really did nothing of consequence except get assassinated (unless you want to count the Bay of Pigs).
Civil rights. Or is that something not of consequence?
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Old 06-08-2004, 03:59 PM
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Civil rights. Or is that something not of consequence?
Ah, there's that. That was probably more LBJ.

But Vietnam really overshadows both of those administrations in my opinion. Especially LBJ. Neither of them, in my opinion (of course, this is all completely subjective) are as "great" as Reagan. Of course, you may disagree.

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Old 06-08-2004, 04:00 PM
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Reagan - Money

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So when Jimmy Carter dies its ok to put him on currency since he won the noble peace prize?

Or how about Clinton? He was a popular president even during his scandal. Reagan had Iran Contra, Clinton had Monica. I liked Reagan and he was TKE, but putting him on Mt Rusmore or on money is way overboard.

Here's an idea - instead of everyone complaining - how about we let the Congress and the Senate vote on it. Since they represent America. If they pass it - then let it be so. If when another President dies they want to do the same, and they propose legislation and it passes - then so be it!
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Old 06-08-2004, 04:01 PM
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Re: Reagan - Money

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Here's an idea - instead of everyone complaining - how about we let the Congress and the Senate vote on it. Since they represent America. If they pass it - then let it be so. If when another President dies they want to do the same, and they propose legislation and it passes - then so be it!
Listen... this is a message board. We gripe, argue and complain about things. That is what this forum is for.

Just because we're not congresspeople doesn't mean we don't get to have opinions on these things.
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Old 06-08-2004, 04:02 PM
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Ah, there's that. That was probably more LBJ.

But Vietnam really overshadows both of those administrations in my opinion. Especially LBJ. Neither of them, in my opinion (of course, this is all completely subjective) are as "great" as Reagan. Of course, you may disagree.

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Yep everyone seems to think their own parties president is better. There is the occasional bi-partisanship thought
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Old 06-08-2004, 04:04 PM
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Griping

So sorry to offend anyone - in the semantics war. What I should have said, "If you don't have an intelligent argument one way or the other, then don't say anything." I wasn't trying to call to an end to the evil Greek Chat Politics forum! I was responding to another's post.

It's not like I'm planning to abolish Free Speech. Geez - lay off the coffee.
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Old 06-08-2004, 04:10 PM
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So when Jimmy Carter dies its ok to put him on currency since he won the noble peace prize?
Jimmy Carter already has a Seawolf-class attack submarine named for him (SSN-23), to be commissioned next year. (PCU (Pre-Commissioning Unit) Jimmy Carter (the USS designation does not apply to the boat until it is commissioned). It's extremely rare for a living person to be so honored by the Navy.

(Before anyone gets even more riled up there is a USS John S. McCain. Not named after the ex-Vietnam POW and senior senator from Arizona, but after his father, Adm. John S. McCain, Jr., commander-in-chief of the Pacific Fleet in Vietnam.)

Not bad for a glow-in-the-dark bubblehead. (Disparaging Navyspeak for a nuclear submariner - Carter was an engineering officer in the early days of the Nuclear Navy. The title of his first autobiography "Why Not The Best?" comes from a remark said to him when he underwent his dreaded interview with Adm. Hyman Rickover, the 'father of the nuclear Navy'.)
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Old 06-08-2004, 04:18 PM
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Not to mention (as Dems would say) "The economy, stupid". All of that changed just as soon as Reagan took office.
LOL! Ah yes, it did -- for some. Those less affluent among us didn't get much trickle down from the "voodoo economics." (Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?) And of course, the federal deficit went out of the roof. That didn't change, of course, until President Scandal came along. (And then W went and blew it all.)

I respected President Reagan. I didn't ever vote for him -- always campaigned and voted against him, in fact. Like pretty much any president he did some good and some not so good. I thought, and in some instances, continue to think that many of his policies were not good for the country. And, no, I'm not a left-winger.

But I respected him, if for no other reason than because he was President. That alone demands my respect, even if the holder of that office is Bill Clinton or George W. Bush. I have little patience with those who place partisanship above simple repect for the person who holds the highest office in the country.

My opinion -- Congress should never consider placing a president on money unless (1) it has been at least 25 years since that person was president and (2) it has been at least 15 years since that person died. History does give some perspective, such as whether Reagan deserves to be on the $10 bill more than the author of the Federalist Papers, without whom we would not have constitutional system we have enjoyed for the last 200+ years.
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Old 06-08-2004, 04:31 PM
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I am against it but I don't see why Democrats would care. It's not like they are putting Reagan's pic on foodstamps. As long as his pic is put on a large denomination bill the Dems won't have to see him.

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Old 06-08-2004, 04:40 PM
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$10 is large?
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Old 06-08-2004, 04:41 PM
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I am against it but I don't see why Democrats would care. It's not like they are putting Reagan's pic on foodstamps. As long as his pic is put on a large denomination bill the Dems won't have to see him.
lol

Actually what Mysticat says is a pretty decent notion.

Kind of like Catholic Sainthood. It must be so many years past your death before you qualify.

I like that.
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Old 06-08-2004, 05:29 PM
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Probably moreso than Hamilton.

That ranking BTW was a joke. It had LBJ and Woodrow "Great Depression" Wilson ahead of Reagan. And there was JFK. He really did nothing of consequence except get assassinated (unless you want to count the Bay of Pigs).
Uhm, yeah. Hamilton's role in the development of this nation is far more significant than Reagan's role. No one is alive who knew an yone who knew anyone who knew Hamilton. There is no emotional support for him. The support for Reagan is being based purely on emotion, and not on a rational analysis of his overall contribution to America. This debate should not occur now. it should occur in several years after everyone has calmed down.

Also, blaming Woodrow Wilson for the Great Depression is absolutely absurd, and indefensible. His outlook on international affairs almost completely composes the Post-WWII international stage. He may actually prove to be the 20th century American president with the greatest influence in global affairs.

Ranking LBJ ahead of Reagan deserves debate though. Reagan clearly beats him in foreign affairs. Domestically, the Great Society was a double edged sword. It advanced civil rights, and allowed many to escape poverty, while institutionalizing poverty for many more.
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Old 06-08-2004, 05:30 PM
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Dont know this for certain, why Im asking:

Wasnt Lincoln involved in some fairly shady activity? I remember reading that his successor, Andrew Johnson, was essentially impeached for things done by Lincoln that he would have been tried for, had he not been assassinated. If someone knows more, please post.

Just illustrating that no president was perfect, and its more the traits we admire in others that we should emulate instead of the person himself. Its okay to admire Clinton for the good things he did in office without thinking of the Monica thing, and its okay to admire Reagan for the things he did, even if in '47 his weekend softball team was racially disproportionate.
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Old 06-08-2004, 05:39 PM
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This article mentions that Nancy is against the idea but they are still going to try to push the bill through.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...gan_us_money_1
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