Famous Greeks... a different kinda thread

[thermobryan]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
That's awesome that these people still think of their chapters once they make it to the top.

I'm curious... what exactly did Ronald Reagan and Walgreen do for TKE besides give them bragging rights? And Tim McGraw? That was the point of the thread... not just "hey so and so is a Pike".

Sidenote: I think Bobby Bowden's wife is a Phi Mu, do you know if she is active with Phi Mu at all?

Tim McGraw continously supports pike, and was recently given the pike of the year award. OH, and bobby bowden is a Pike too....Rick Dees, Jon Stewart, Colonel Sanders...They ALL pledged (not honorary) and continue to support the Fraternity.

[Senusret I]

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
That is very, very wrong.

Exactly....which is why I wish members of organizations would speak for their own GLOs and not their umbrella organizations, NPC, NIC, NPHC, whoever.

[starang21]

Originally posted by Senusret I
Exactly....which is why I wish members of organizations would speak for their own GLOs and not their umbrella organizations, NPC, NIC, NPHC, whoever.

so alpha doesn't have honorary members who are active in their respective organizations?

[Senusret I]

Our honorary members are all dead.

[starang21]

Originally posted by Senusret I
Our honorary members are all dead.

so at one point in time...y'all had honorary members? how does that disagree with what was said?

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by starang21
so at one point in time...y'all had honorary members? how does that disagree with what was said?

She said "most of these "famous greeks" are more likely to be honorary rather than have truely "pledged" a certain org." which is highly inaccurate. Its also demeaning (as well as ignorant) because it suggests that our organizations can not hold the interest of prominent people through out their lives.

[starang21]

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
She said "most of these "famous greeks" are more likely to be honorary rather than have truely "pledged" a certain org." which is highly inaccurate. Its also demeaning (as well as ignorant) because it suggests that our organizations can not hold the interest of prominent people through out their lives.

well, i disagree with the most assessment, but she does have a point. what she said does happen.

[Imperial1]

Originally posted by starang21
she's probably speaking from the perspective of a BGLO. i'm not sure how non-pan organizations do it, but this is true among the NPHC.

Thank you, at least SOMEBODY knows what I was talking about unlike that "other" person who is in a BGLO and don't know.

Imperial1

[Senusret I]

Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc., is a member of the National Pan-Hellenic Council, an organization that serves as a coordinating body of nine traditionally African American organizations.

In terms of internal matters such as honorary memberships, it is best not to generalize. If you choose to speak on honorary memberships in terms of your own organization, then that is fine -- I will read whatever you have to say about Iotas prominent and/or honorary members with an open mind.

What I will not stand for is ANYONE generalizing what my fraternity handles internally strictly because we are a member of the National Pan-Hellenic Council. What you may BELIEVE is true of all, most, or many NPHC organizations is NOT universally true.

Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc., does not initiate honorary members, and has not done so for decades. That has no bearing on the present conversation, because PM_Mama asked about FAMOUS Greeks, not honorary or pledged Greeks. Imperial1 brought up the very much off-topic point of these people being honorary, which was wrong, as PsiPhiRuss stated. It was an assumption she made based on her own organization's practices. Because I have done research into non-NPHC organizations, I know better than to assume that their famous members are mostly honorary. You came in with the assumption that HER assumption was based on her knowledge of NPHC practices. Honorary memberships are at the discretion of each NPHC organization, and NOT something that can be generalized or universally applied.

Alpha is not the only NPHC organization that does NOT currently have honorary initiations. Therefore, once again, I refuse to generalize NPHC organizations strictly because they are NPHC organizations, or any fraternity or sorority just because they are fraternities and sororities.

For further reference, I highly suggest The History of Alpha Phi Alpha: A Development in College Life by Charles Harris Wesley.

[Imperial1]

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
She said "most of these "famous greeks" are more likely to be honorary rather than have truely "pledged" a certain org." which is highly inaccurate. Its also demeaning (as well as ignorant) because it suggests that our organizations can not hold the interest of prominent people through out their lives.

How da fukk is what I said ignorant based on what I know from NPHC? As far as your org goes, I ain't never heard of it and could care less who's a famous member of your org. It must not be that important to them, cause the majority of the famous ones in my org that actually pledged represent my org to the fullest. Sorry you're so "offended" that members of OTHER orgs happen to become honorary.

Imperial1

[Senusret I]

Originally posted by Imperial1
Thank you, at least SOMEBODY knows what I was talking about unlike that "other" person who is in a BGLO and don't know.

Imperial1

Comedy! Or at least, a valiant attempt.

Because I have a different (albiet more informed) opinion, I all of a sudden don't know that I am in a BGLO? How about this: I pledged Alpha Phi Alpha, not the NPHC, and I don't have to agree with or even like you just because you are also in an NPHC organization.

[Senusret I]

Originally posted by Imperial1
How da fukk is what I said ignorant based on what I know from NPHC?

Because you are not on an NPHC-only message board.

On top of that, as I said earlier, what you "know" of the NPHC is not universally applied among the NPHC.

[Imperial1]

And no, the fact that I brought up that many famous members are most likely honorary was NOT wrong. The real question should've been how many of those famous members are still active in their orgs. We wanna talk about famous members of greek orgs, lets talk about the real shyt that we wanna know.

Imperial1

[starang21]

Originally posted by Senusret I
Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc., is a member of the National Pan-Hellenic Council, an organization that serves as a coordinating body of nine traditionally African American organizations.

In terms of internal matters such as honorary memberships, it is best not to generalize. If you choose to speak on honorary memberships in terms of your own organization, then that is fine -- I will read whatever you have to say about Iotas prominent and/or honorary members with an open mind.

What I will not stand for is ANYONE generalizing what my fraternity handles internally strictly because we are a member of the National Pan-Hellenic Council. What you may BELIEVE is true of all, most, or many NPHC organizations is NOT universally true.

Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc., does not initiate honorary members, and has not done so for decades. That has no bearing on the present conversation, because PM_Mama asked about FAMOUS Greeks, not honorary or pledged Greeks. Imperial1 brought up the very much off-topic point of these people being honorary, which was wrong, as PsiPhiRuss stated. It was an assumption she made based on her own organization's practices. Because I have done research into non-NPHC organizations, I know better than to assume that their famous members are mostly honorary. You came in with the assumption that HER assumption was based on her knowledge of NPHC practices. Honorary memberships are at the discretion of each NPHC organization, and NOT something that can be generalized or universally applied.

Alpha is not the only NPHC organization that does NOT currently have honorary initiations. Therefore, once again, I refuse to generalize NPHC organizations strictly because they are NPHC organizations, or any fraternity or sorority just because they are fraternities and sororities.

For further reference, I highly suggest The History of Alpha Phi Alpha: A Development in College Life by Charles Harris Wesley.

calm down, man. it's not that serious. she's pointing out the fact that honorary member ship happens in GLOs. i disagree the fact that most of them didn't pledge, but at one point in time, we've all had honorary members. it's not a bad thing, so there's no need to get huffy. she's speaking on the NPHC, not alpha specifically....if you want to get technical, alpha is one of the 9 organizations that is part of the nphc. meaning that if only ONE pan org. did it, then it's done in the NPHC. as it is, if it's no longer done with your frat, that's fine. the kappas (what i'v heard) don't do it either, but is it still done in the nphc? YES. she didn't call out anyone specifically, so there's no need for you to have a conniption fit about it.

as far as reading the book on alpha? nah, buddy..i'm ok. but thanks anyway.

[Imperial1]

Originally posted by Senusret I
Because you are not on an NPHC-only message board.

On top of that, as I said earlier, what you "know" of the NPHC is not universally applied among the NPHC.

I know this ain't only an NPHC board, but I'm sure there are other non-NPHC orgs who have honorary famous members as well. THAT's why I brought it up, and THAT's why it wasn't ignorant, nor was it wrong. The truth bit you in the ass and it hurt. And what I "know" of NPHC is universally applied because most of the orgs are univerally organized.

Imperial1