Iraqi Prisoner Abuse Hearings/ Military Revelations/Retaliation-American Beheaded

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by AKA2D '91
CAIRO, Egypt - A video posted Tuesday on an Islamic militant Web site showed the beheading of an American civilian in Iraq (news - web sites), and said the execution was carried out by an al-Qaida affiliated group to avenge the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...rican_beheaded

I think its interesting how the media will show what our soldiers did to the Iraqi's..but won't show the brutality of these radical muslims who chant Ali Akbar (God is Great) throughout the whole beheading. Say what you want about what we did...but those soldiers are still alive. In my opinion..the media would rather focus on things that make my President look bad and attempt to make the war look like it was a bad idea..instead of show something i.e. the sick and twisted nature of these crazy Muslims.. that would reinforce why we needed to take the war to them ...

I know of one site www.glennbeck.com (on page 2) that shows the beheading in its entirety...

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
I think its interesting how the media will show what our soldiers did to the Iraqi's..but won't show the brutality of these radical muslims who chant Ali Akbar (God is Great) throughout the whole beheading. Say what you want about what we did...but those soldiers are still alive. In my opinion..the media would rather focus on things that make my President look bad and attempt to make the war look like it was a bad idea..instead of show something i.e. the sick and twisted nature of these crazy Muslims.. that would reinforce why we needed to take the war to them ...

I know of one site www.glennbeck.com (on page 2) that shows the beheading in its entirety...

You and me both. I'm not understanding why this is not getting the amount of press/concern/outrage as the "abuse" photos did. I'll be the first person to say that wrong is wrong - regardless as to who's doing it (Bush, Iraqis, whoever). But I just can't understand why no one is jumping on this. Only the next few days will tell I guess.

I couldn't watch the entire video. To hear him scream like that was unbearable.

God bless his family during this time of grief.

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
I think its interesting how the media will show what our soldiers did to the Iraqi's..but won't show the brutality of these radical muslims who chant Ali Akbar (God is Great) throughout the whole beheading. Say what you want about what we did...but those soldiers are still alive. In my opinion..the media would rather focus on things that make my President look bad and attempt to make the war look like it was a bad idea..instead of show something i.e. the sick and twisted nature of these crazy Muslims.. that would reinforce why we needed to take the war to them ...

I know of one site www.glennbeck.com (on page 2) that shows the beheading in its entirety...

Who is Ali Akbar? Did you know that some of the soldiers were murdered? Did you actually watch the commission? Rumsfeld said that the worst is yet to come. There has been reports of murders in the prison from different organizations and when the Red Cross goes public, you know something is terribly wrong.

As for Berg, I hope they catch the bastards who did it. They deserved to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by moe.ron
Who is Ali Akbar? Did you know that some of the soldiers were murdered? Did you actually watch the commission? Rumsfeld said that the worst is yet to come. There has been reports of murders in the prison from different organizations and when the Red Cross goes public, you know something is terribly wrong.

As for Berg, I hope they catch the bastards who did it. They deserved to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Ali Akbar is something Muslims say it means in English that "God is Great" And yes I actually watched the commission, but I have a job so I did not see it in its entirety.... but none of that changes my perspective..the American Media has a BIASED way of reporting the news...when it doesn't fit their agenda..they won't report it...

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
Ali Akbar is something Muslims say it means in English that "God is Great"

Wrong. As for the big bad liberal media, I'm watching CNN and they been covering the murder as much as the tortures tape. So your thesis that the media is not covering the murder because it does not fit their "agenda" is proved to be wanting.

[allsmiles_22]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
Uhh..my post..so I can focus on what I want..Thank you very much

.so to answer you YES I dissent with his correlation

Seeing as though you posted what you wanted on a public message board, you are open to be questioned or addressed about your post. Don't be so sensitive.

Since I enjoy your dialogue so much, could you please elaborate on why you dissent with his correlation?

In another thread you state: "I believe a woman's past sexual history says alot about her...and should be admissible..." so you can correlate the current actions of a woman to her past actions. However, you can't correlate our country's current actions to our past? As a police officer, you've never considered a criminal's past actions to his current? Just trying to see where you are coming from. Leaving out political affilations, race comments, whatever and just focusing on relating past events to current.

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally posted by moe.ron
Wrong. As for the big bad liberal media, I'm watching CNN and they been covering the murder as much as the tortures tape. So your thesis that the media is not covering the murder because it does not fit their "agenda" is proved to be wanting.

Is today not "day one" on this coverage though ? How can you compare one day (and one channel at that)?

Let's look at this again this time next week(at least) and see.

Shoot, the Marcus Dixon case is JUST now getting some press although it has been going on for months.

[allsmiles_22]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
I think its interesting how the media will show what our soldiers did to the Iraqi's..but won't show the brutality of these radical muslims who chant Ali Akbar (God is Great) throughout the whole beheading. Say what you want about what we did...but those soldiers are still alive. In my opinion..the media would rather focus on things that make my President look bad and attempt to make the war look like it was a bad idea..instead of show something i.e. the sick and twisted nature of these crazy Muslims.. that would reinforce why we needed to take the war to them ...

After having a chapter Soror speak about her year in Irag, I can't say that agree with how our soldiers are being handled concering this "scandal". I don't agree with the treatment of the prisoners, but I can't begin to understand what our soldiers are going through to make them act this way.

I too think the constant showing of the prisoner abuse is excessive. Then again it would be kind of childish for the media to play the "they did this, so we did that" game.

As our President, Bush has to take the good-capturing Saddam, tax cuts, etc- along with the bad-this horrible and unwarranted war-during his term.

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
Is today not "day one" on this coverage though ? How can you compare one day (and one channel at that)?

Let's look at this again this time next week(at least) and see.

Shoot, the Marcus Dixon case is JUST now getting some press although it has been going on for months.

Seeing that I only get BBC, Sky News, SABC Africa and CNN, I can only analyzed the 4 network. SABC Africa will say it on a passing comment as they will concentrate more on African stories. Sky News is concentrating on the alleged murders perpetrated by British Troops in basra. BBC and CNN is concentrating on the murder.

Watching CNN over the conflict, trust me, they are not biased toward the Bush admin. What kind of methodology are we going to use to see if the media is biased or not?

ETA: Intersting that none of the media have even touched the usage of mercenaries in Iraq. Did you konw that many of the mercenaries used by the CPA were former South African Secret Police members during the apartheid era. There were also people who in implicated in the rape of Bosnia and Croatia.

[Love_Spell_6]

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Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
Ali Akbar is something Muslims say it means in English that "God is Great"
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Originally posted by moe.ron
Wrong. As for the big bad liberal media, I'm watching CNN and they been covering the murder as much as the tortures tape. So your thesis that the media is not covering the murder because it does not fit their "agenda" is proved to be wanting.

well i guess u should send an email to the New York post cause apparently they have it wrong too...unless you were confused because of my spelling...

http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/20688.htm
Then, one of the hooded fanatics reads a lengthy statement denouncing President Bush as a "dog of the Christians" and vowing revenge for the prison abuse scandal.

"Nation of Islam. Is there any excuse left to sit idly by? And how can free Muslims sleep soundly as they see Islam being slaughtered, honor bleeding, photographs of shame and reports of satanic degradation of the people of Islam, men and women in Abu Ghraib prison," says the speaker.

As the tape continues, one of the masked men pushes Berg sideways to the ground and he begins to scream.

To shouts of "Allahu akbar" (God is great), Zarqawi thrusts a large knife into his neck and saws off his head.

[Senusret I]

With all due respect, you were wrong. Ali and Allahu are two entirely different words in Arabic.

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by Senusret I
With all due respect, you were wrong. Ali and Allahu are two entirely different words in Arabic.

With all due respect..I noted I probably confused the spelling, and please don't confuse me with a Muslim scholar..

BOTTOM LINE these crazed lunatics are chanting God is great while beheading a man!! Whether they were saying Ali Babbu or Ali wanna cracker..this is my point!

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by allsmiles_22
Seeing as though you posted what you wanted on a public message board, you are open to be questioned or addressed about your post. Don't be so sensitive.

Since I enjoy your dialogue so much, could you please elaborate on why you dissent with his correlation?

In another thread you state: "I believe a woman's past sexual history says alot about her...and should be admissible..." so you can correlate the current actions of a woman to her past actions. However, you can't correlate our country's current actions to our past? As a police officer, you've never considered a criminal's past actions to his current? Just trying to see where you are coming from. Leaving out political affilations, race comments, whatever and just focusing on relating past events to current.

Me sensitive?? u must be new to GC sweetie If I were sensitive I would have stopped posting here about 500 posts ago..me being the lone supporter of an argument is the norm on GC....and thats fine by me

As far as Nupe4life's post that you're asking about..one of the things he said was that America was synonymous with violence..or something like that...and yes we have partly a violent history..but I don't think that is what we are ALL about and what we stand for..so to say that this should be expected because of America's past is just faulty logic in my opinion..

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
With all due respect..I noted I probably confused the spelling, and please don't confuse me with a Muslim scholar..

BOTTOM LINE these crazed lunatics are chanting God is great while beheading a man!! Whether they were saying Ali Babbu or Ali wanna cracker..this is my point!

No, that would be Arabic scholar. If you are a Christian and speak Arabic, you would also you Allah in describing God.

What exactly is your point? yes they said it and they are lunatic. ARe you implying somethng about Islam?

[allsmiles_22]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
Me sensitive?? u must be new to GC sweetie If I were sensitive I would have stopped posting here about 500 posts ago..me being the lone supporter of an argument is the norm on GC....and thats fine by me

Don't let the post count fool ya. I'm quite the observer and would rather do that than bash black people, rant and rave about a love affair with Bush or catch the holier than thou ghost every time someone brings up something concering race, religion or politics.

As far as being the "lone supporter of an argument on GC", how you get your thrills is your business. My intent was never to argue.

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
As far as Nupe4life's post that you're asking about..one of the things he said was that America was synonymous with violence..or something like that...and yes we have partly a violent history.

That's what I thought. Thanks for the dialogue!