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03-03-2004, 07:02 AM
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I have TONS of experience with rowdy kitties!! When any of my cats/kittens has ever done anything that it was not supposed to do, I would quietly and calmly get up, get the little feline, say "NO!" and give a gentle little pop on the nose, then release. After you do this enough times (and it does work for kittens), they either get the idea, or they'll watch to see if you'll get up. If you make a move to get up, the cat/kitten will immediately stop the inappropriate behavior.
Honestly, you have to think about all animals as wild. In the wild, the way big cats regulate those at lower levels in their prides is through physical force. The leaders don't kill and rarely hurt the other cats, but they do prove their points!
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03-08-2004, 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by thetalady
OH MY NO!!! The invisible fence system is NOT appropriate for cats Cats are far too small to use a shock collar on.
If you need to keep cats away from things, buy a Scat Mat, put down double sticky tape, or even use plastic carpet runners turned upside down... just don't YOU step on it in the middle of the night!
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actually they have made a specific device for cats-you are not using the same type of collar on cats as you are on dogs. I will let everyone know how it works whenever I get around to placing it in my home.
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03-08-2004, 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by aggieAXO
actually they have made a specific device for cats-you are not using the same type of collar on cats as you are on dogs. I will let everyone know how it works whenever I get around to placing it in my home.
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Aggie AXO-
OOPS. I realize that although you used the term "invisible fence", you weren't necessarily referring to the specific brand! Invisible Fence (the specific brand) does not have a cat system, but other brands do.
I am curious... what kind of collar do they use that is different than the dog shock collar? I haven't seen one, but would be interested in getting more info.
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03-08-2004, 03:09 AM
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What is this invisible fence tazer-sounding like electric shock collars thing.  Right now I don't know anything about it and it sounds barbaric from the thread! Can some please explain in the thread what it is?
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03-08-2004, 03:44 AM
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Originally posted by decadence
What is this invisible fence tazer-sounding like electric shock collars thing. Right now I don't know anything about it and it sounds barbaric from the thread! Can some please explain in the thread what it is?
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Basically, an wire is either buried or laid on the ground/floor. The wire sends out a radio signal to a collar that the animal wears. The collar has a plastic box on it with 2 metal studs that press into the animal's throat. This is the receiver. When the animal gets too close to the wire, an electric charge is generated and give the animal a small to medium shock to the throat, depending on the setting used. This teaches the animal not to go in that area.
Before you get too upset... From Pet Education.com:
The true purpose of the correction is to startle -- to get the animal's attention so that training can commence or continue. Electronic training systems help enable one to gain, or regain, control of a situation, and to establish, or re-establish, position as the 'leader.' In fact, not every electronic training system emits a static electric correction. Some startle the dog by using an ultrasonic tone, which canines exclusively hear, while others use a 'spray' technology, and emit a quick startling mist, usually citronella, to dissuade the dog. All can be effective.
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Although these collars are not supposed to cause harm, I have heard some terrible stories about dogs that got very bad burns when the metal prongs got wet & shorted out.
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03-08-2004, 07:47 AM
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wires are not used when you have cats-I will have to get my brochure to tell the proper name of the device but basically there are boxes that you place at each end of the entrance to the room or area you want to keep your cat out of and it emits a field-again I don't know that much about the cat invisble fence.
As a veterinarian I would never recommend anything that would purposely hurt an animal. I have heard nothing but positive things about invisible fences from my colleagues (for dogs that is, again not sure about cats). In fact this device has saved lives (both from the perspective of getting out of a yard or euthanasia due to behavioral problems). I too have seen certain shock collars that I would not allow on my own pet-do your research and see what is right for your situation.
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03-08-2004, 07:52 AM
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Originally posted by thetalady
Aggie AXO-
OOPS. I realize that although you used the term "invisible fence", you weren't necessarily referring to the specific brand! Invisible Fence (the specific brand) does not have a cat system, but other brands do.
I am curious... what kind of collar do they use that is different than the dog shock collar? I haven't seen one, but would be interested in getting more info.
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I was referring to the specific brand and was just at a home and garden show 3 weeks ago discussing the cat system with the salesman. Maybe it is a new product? Though my friend, who is a vet., was with me seemed to know about the cat version.
I will try and find the brochure and a link for your information. I will also ask some colleagues, since I do emergency work only I don't deal with behavioral things and this is where "invisible fences" is mostly discussed.
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03-08-2004, 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by aggieAXO
I was referring to the specific brand and was just at a home and garden show 3 weeks ago discussing the cat system with the salesman. Maybe it is a new product? Though my friend, who is a vet., was with me seemed to know about the cat version.
I will try and find the brochure and a link for your information. I will also ask some colleagues, since I do emergency work only I don't deal with behavioral things and this is where "invisible fences" is mostly discussed.
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Thanks! I'd love to find out more info & do some evaluation of the product. I looked on the Invisible Fence site & saw nothing about a kitty system.
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