Kerry winner in Iowa Caucuses

Originally posted by Betarulz!
Besides talking to most of the people I know who aren't Republicans, the primary really means nothing as they already know who they are going to be voting for when the election comes around: Anyone NOT BUSH.

Wow,

what a great reason to vote for someone, not because you like them, but because of your dislike for someone else.

What happend to Lieberman? did he drop out of the race? or just not participate in the Iowa caucus?

Kitso
KS 361

[ISUKappa]

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
What happend to Lieberman? did he drop out of the race? or just not participate in the Iowa caucus?

Kitso
KS 361

Neither he nor Clark participated in the Iowa Caucuses.

[pirepresent]

I dont understand why Gephardt is dropping out of the race - can someone explain this to me? Lieberman and Clark didn't even participate in the Iowa caucuses - why does his poor showing neccessarily mean that he should drop out?

As for Dean, I am so glad he did not have a good showing - I think he is super creepy. Like GP said, I would support him over Bush, but I think he is just waaaaaaaaaaaay too creepy to win. Did anyone see his speech last night? While I think the some newspapers blew it a little out of proportion, I DO think some of his true colors showed through, and he came off as having a bit of a temper tantrum....

[ISUKappa]

Originally posted by pirepresent
I dont understand why Gephardt is dropping out of the race - can someone explain this to me? Lieberman and Clark didn't even participate in the Iowa caucuses - why does his poor showing neccessarily mean that he should drop out?

From what I understand, Iowa was Gephardt's "test market" so to speak. He's from a neighboring state (Missouri), he won the Caucuses in 1988 (I think). The general thought was if he could get the support he needed in Iowa, then he felt like he could continue, but since he didn't get the support (coming in a very low 4th) he didn't feel he had the support necessary to pull ahead of the other contenders later on in the game.

Wow. Can I use the word support any more times in that sentence?

[Betarulz!]

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
Wow,

what a great reason to vote for someone, not because you like them, but because of your dislike for someone else.

I think the general feeling is that they will like whoever is Bush's opponent far more than they will ever like Bush. He hasn't exactly done a whole lot to endear himself to a lot of people.

[justamom]

I see the logic. Honestly, I'm considering voting democrat. WHY????????? Well, if Bush wins, say hello to HILLARY in four years. I believe she would win against just about anyone. THAT scares me more than anything...even Dean.

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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
Wow,

what a great reason to vote for someone, not because you like them, but because of your dislike for someone else.


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Betarulz-
I think the general feeling is that they will like whoever is Bush's opponent far more than they will ever like Bush. He hasn't exactly done a whole lot to endear himself to a lot of people.

[lovelyivy84]

I have a friend working on Kerry's campaign in Iowa (he relocated to do it, perhaps the only black Yale/Andover grad in the state but I digress). They are all quite excited, but this is the first of many battles.

It seems to me that Kerry winning Iowa has more meaning in a media-attention sense than politically. The media has been waaaay overhyping Dean and with this win Kerry manages to make a fairly significant statement and turn the focus onto himself.

I am all for a Kerry/Edwards ticket later this year!

[mullet81]

Originally posted by lovelyivy84

I am all for a Kerry/Edwards ticket later this year!

i agree!! i think that would be a fabulous ticket that would pull a lot of different groups together.

the southern democrats and younger generation under Edwards and the older, veteran crowd under Kerry.

I think it would be a wise move. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Edwards, Kerry, or Clark in the dem deat - anyone but Dean, he's way creepy.

[krazy]

You all have to be kidding with these Edwards posts like “he seems sincere” The guy made his career chasing ambulances and suing doctors. What is ethical or sincere about that? He is one of the main problems inherent in our nation’s justice system. Nothing sincere about the guy. Ugh. The single worst person that could be elected. A rich, elitist, dishonest, lying ambulance chaser... not my type of president. Yours?

[justamom]

Originally posted by krazy
You all have to be kidding with these Edwards posts like “he seems sincere” The guy made his career chasing ambulances and suing doctors. What is ethical or sincere about that? He is one of the main problems inherent in our nation’s justice system. Nothing sincere about the guy. Ugh. The single worst person that could be elected. A rich, elitist, dishonest, lying ambulance chaser... not my type of president. Yours?

Agreed! Simply stated PLAINTIFF LAWYER!

Not going to lump all of them together-that would be stereo typing-but DAY-UM!

I do think he will appeal to anyone who has never been sued-
ANYONE? ANYONE?

[Dionysus]

Originally posted by krazy
You all have to be kidding with these Edwards posts like “he seems sincere” The guy made his career chasing ambulances and suing doctors. What is ethical or sincere about that? He is one of the main problems inherent in our nation’s justice system. Nothing sincere about the guy. Ugh. The single worst person that could be elected. A rich, elitist, dishonest, lying ambulance chaser... not my type of president. Yours?

Like this doesn't describe a lot of politicians?
Kerry or not. Democrat or republican.

[lovelyivy84]

I don't think Kerry/Edwards because I particularly admire the guy.

I just think it might be the best possible chance for a Dem win. Edwards' appeal could help Kerry in the swing states - he will have an appeal that Kerry as an old school Yankee just won't have. The red states will stay red and the blues blue, but Edwards would probably be a better bet in the in-between states than Clark, even if he is from Arkansas, so I am tentatively thinking this could be a good ticket.

So basically anyone but Bush.

[krazy]

Originally posted by Dionysus
Like this doesn't describe a lot of politicians?
Kerry or not. Democrat or republican.

I was talking about Edwards. Okay, does that make it right? No Way. He is a scumbag. And by the way, most people in SC do not like how he considers himself a South Carolinian. He was hanging around in charleston the other week and I wanted to tell him my vote would go to Bart Simpson before it would go to him, but I just stayed at the other end of the bar...

[AGDee]

I had said in another thread here that I thought the media was pushing Dean down our throats and I'm most relieved that he didn't win in Iowa so that they would stop that!

Dee

[krazy]

Originally posted by lovelyivy84
I don't think Kerry/Edwards because I particularly admire the guy.

I just think it might be the best possible chance for a Dem win. Edwards' appeal could help Kerry in the swing states - he will have an appeal that Kerry as an old school Yankee just won't have. The red states will stay red and the blues blue, but Edwards would probably be a better bet in the in-between states than Clark, even if he is from Arkansas, so I am tentatively thinking this could be a good ticket.

So basically anyone but Bush.

I don't understand? So you would rather have someone in office that is a creepy, money-grubbing sneak? Anyone but Bush? What is that supposed to mean? What do you have against Bush? Are you that partisan that you don't even care about issues?