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10-17-2003, 11:49 AM
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oh shuddup Rudey
hehe j/k
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10-17-2003, 12:04 PM
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10-17-2003, 12:07 PM
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Yankees = best team money can buy
Marlins = team with heart
I second this emotion: Yuck the Fankees
Marlins in 6
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I'd say the Yankees have some heart too.
The Marlins are certainly paying Pudge a pretty decent amount for his "heart." I'd say going out and signing him had a lot to do with it.
The Yanks spend a hell of a lot of money, that's true, a good deal more than other teams. But they're not the only team that spends; if you know anything about baseball, you know that.
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10-17-2003, 01:23 PM
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Here you go, facts prove it all. Yankees have all the money and continually buy decent players for short term contracts just so they can make it to the "big dance" at the end of each season (I.E. Aaron Boone, Giambi, Dave Justice, Ventura, Mondesi, Paul O'Neil, Reuben Sierra...etc...just to name a few.)
Lets talk baseball.
2003 Team Salary
NEW YORK YANKEES $ 152,749,814 (highest payroll 7 out of the last 10 years)(out of those 10 years, the Yanks were in 6 world series, winning 4 of them (excluding 2003)) Give the Yanks the Brewers payroll, we'll see how they do. Everyone wants to play for the Yanks, because they get paid well.
NEW YORK METS $ 117,176,429
ATLANTA BRAVES $ 106,243,667
LOS ANGELES DODGERS $ 105,872,620
TEXAS RANGERS $ 103,491,667
BOSTON RED SOX $ 99,946,500
SEATTLE MARINERS $ 86,959,167
ST LOUIS CARDINALS $ 83,486,666
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS $ 82,852,167
ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS $ 80,640,333
CHICAGO CUBS $ 79,868,333
ANAHEIM ANGELS $ 79,031,667
BALTIMORE ORIOLES $ 73,877,500
HOUSTON ASTROS $ 71,040,000
PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES $ 70,780,000
COLORADO ROCKIES $ 67,179,667
CINCINNATI REDS $ 59,355,667
MINNESOTA TWINS $ 55,505,000
PITTSBURGH PIRATES $ 54,812,429
MONTREAL EXPOS $ 51,948,500
TORONTO BLUE JAYS $ 51,269,000
CHICAGO WHITE SOX $ 51,010,000
OAKLAND ATHLETICS $ 50,260,834
DETROIT TIGERS $ 49,168,000
FLORIDA MARLINS $ 49,050,000
CLEVELAND INDIANS $ 48,584,834
SAN DIEGO PADRES $ 47,928,000
MILWAUKEE BREWERS $ 40,627,000
KANSAS CITY ROYALS $ 40,518,000
TAMPA BAY DEVIL RAYS $ 19,630,000
Marlins in 6
Last edited by ZZ-kai-; 10-17-2003 at 01:27 PM.
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10-17-2003, 01:29 PM
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Please explain the "legal scalping operation" and how they cheated the leagues. I am not a Cubs fan, so this did not insult me, but I am still interested in learning about this.
"Sammy the Corker"
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Originally posted by Rudey
Yeah you know what? That's retarded. Seriously I'm tired of that crap. Nobody said anything about how the Cubs have their own legal scalping operation just a short distance away from Wrigley. Nobody said anything about how the Cubs cheat the league.
And how the hell do the Marlins have heart?
If you look at the serious facts, because the Yankees have chased after so many great players, baseball has changed and teams have become more competitive. The game is more exciting.
-Rudey
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10-17-2003, 01:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by ZZ-kai-
Please explain the "legal scalping operation" and how they cheated the leagues. I am not a Cubs fan, so this did not insult me, but I am still interested in learning about this.
"Sammy the Corker"
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http://www.suntimes.com/output/couch...t-greg111.html
It's not an insult. It's the truth.
-Rudey
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10-17-2003, 02:02 PM
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How disgusting. I went to bed last night thinking that Boston had it - when I last saw the score it was 4 to1. This Baltimore woman would like to repeat the sentiment yet again - yuck the fankees.
Go Marlins.
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10-17-2003, 03:04 PM
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yanks buy their championships.
teams like oakland deserve to be there.
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10-17-2003, 04:09 PM
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We knew New York spends more than other teams as ksigkid stated already. However how many homegrown players did Boston have?
New York spends and I applaud them for it because they can. There is no rule in baseball against spending as much as you want. Why don't other teams do it than? The yankees are playing by the book just like the other 29 teams can.
The yanks have a ton of revenue but thats all about good front office work and an overall good product. (although playing the largest market has some say in it) Baseball is a buisiness and the yanks are the best at it.
I also want to ad that I am not a yankee fan at all but I enjoy to watch them in the playoffs each year because its such a storied organization.
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10-17-2003, 04:30 PM
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yanks buy their championships
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10-17-2003, 04:32 PM
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What does that prove? Nobody says the Yankees don't spend. Should all teams spend the same? Is that what you want?
Several years ago during the baseball strikes, businessmen got together to create this one league that they owned entirely - not just one team at a time. All the talent would be spread out. You know what happened with it? Nothing.
Now that we know that the Yankees spend, let's look at other things. The Yankees give money to the league based on their large profits. The Yankees because of their location and history are able to pay for the team.
Also the Yankees haven't "bought" anything. Most of their championships were in which decades? Now they've only won 40% of the championships in the last 10 years even though they bought them? The fact is that the aggressive recruiting and higher salaries have made the game more exciting. Teams have become more competitive to keep up.
And another thing I just thought of. How much the team makes is always one of the biggest secrets out there. You can never find an accurate number because owners hate to release it. On average they say that teams bring in 25% every year because the MLB is considered one of the worse monopolies ever. So other teams can still profit and pay their players more. Should the Yankees be to blame for that? Why don't you blame the other owners?
-Rudey
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Originally posted by ZZ-kai-
Here you go, facts prove it all. Yankees have all the money and continually buy decent players for short term contracts just so they can make it to the "big dance" at the end of each season (I.E. Aaron Boone, Giambi, Dave Justice, Ventura, Mondesi, Paul O'Neil, Reuben Sierra...etc...just to name a few.)
Lets talk baseball.
2003 Team Salary
NEW YORK YANKEES $ 152,749,814 (highest payroll 7 out of the last 10 years)(out of those 10 years, the Yanks were in 6 world series, winning 4 of them (excluding 2003)) Give the Yanks the Brewers payroll, we'll see how they do. Everyone wants to play for the Yanks, because they get paid well.
NEW YORK METS $ 117,176,429
ATLANTA BRAVES $ 106,243,667
LOS ANGELES DODGERS $ 105,872,620
TEXAS RANGERS $ 103,491,667
BOSTON RED SOX $ 99,946,500
SEATTLE MARINERS $ 86,959,167
ST LOUIS CARDINALS $ 83,486,666
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS $ 82,852,167
ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS $ 80,640,333
CHICAGO CUBS $ 79,868,333
ANAHEIM ANGELS $ 79,031,667
BALTIMORE ORIOLES $ 73,877,500
HOUSTON ASTROS $ 71,040,000
PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES $ 70,780,000
COLORADO ROCKIES $ 67,179,667
CINCINNATI REDS $ 59,355,667
MINNESOTA TWINS $ 55,505,000
PITTSBURGH PIRATES $ 54,812,429
MONTREAL EXPOS $ 51,948,500
TORONTO BLUE JAYS $ 51,269,000
CHICAGO WHITE SOX $ 51,010,000
OAKLAND ATHLETICS $ 50,260,834
DETROIT TIGERS $ 49,168,000
FLORIDA MARLINS $ 49,050,000
CLEVELAND INDIANS $ 48,584,834
SAN DIEGO PADRES $ 47,928,000
MILWAUKEE BREWERS $ 40,627,000
KANSAS CITY ROYALS $ 40,518,000
TAMPA BAY DEVIL RAYS $ 19,630,000
Marlins in 6
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10-17-2003, 04:45 PM
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It was even cooler to ride by the stadium today on the way to and from work and peak inside.
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10-17-2003, 04:50 PM
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10-17-2003, 04:52 PM
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Quote:
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Give the Yanks the Brewers payroll, we'll see how they do. Everyone wants to play for the Yanks, because they get paid well.
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Does this mean the Brew Crew would get the Yankee payroll? Maybe they would be good then!
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10-17-2003, 05:23 PM
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I am so happy that the Yankees won. I was watching the game last night, but I turned the channel for a second and missed the homerun. I knew they won because I heard people cheering in the street after midnight. I flipped the channel and saw the victory celebration. Yippee! Jeter looked good!
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