The execution of Paul Hill - convicted of killing an abortion doctor - Page 2

The Grapist · #1 09-01-2003, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
OMG, Blaine, why are you so depressing? You always bring up topics like this! Why can't we talk about Queer Eye for the Straight Guy? That show is SOOO hilarious.

[Carlton from Fresh Prince voice]

Because this board is in dire need of intellectual stimulation.

[/Carlton from Fresh Prince voice]

smiley21 · #2 09-01-2003, 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by Imthachamp
well, as long as God commanded him to do it, it's ok with me.

he saved the babies!

FREE PAUL HILL

Imthachamp- dont act like babies have a higher value than adults. babies are precious, but no matter how you look at it, what paul did was murder. i am not God's personal spokesperson, but i KNOW that He wouldnt condone murder. that commandment i mentioned earlier doesnt say 'thou shalt not kill...unless you are saving the life of a child.' ( fyi: i think self defense is another story)

paul did not help the situation. women who want an abortion will just go to someone else. so who is paul saving here?

FAB*SpiceySpice · #3 09-01-2003, 03:46 PM

I don't support the death penalty, I never have and I never will. Didn't anyone else ever learn that two wrongs do NOT make a right? Just because he killed someone does not justify us killing him. That makes us no better than him at all. Put him in jail for the rest of his life, that's more of a punishment as he will have to live with knowing what he did every single day for the rest of his entire life.

blueGBI · #4 09-01-2003, 03:48 PM

I'm personally against abortion but I can't condone what Paul Hill did. I'm also against the death penalty (I feel that taking anyone's life is playing God.) I would rather that he would rot in jail, having to spend everyday thinking about two lives that he as a minister took away from the earth and how much a hypocrite he is for commiting a sin when he is supposed to lead people away from sin.

smiley21 · #5 09-01-2003, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by FAB*SpiceySpice
I don't support the death penalty, I never have and I never will. Didn't anyone else ever learn that two wrongs do NOT make a right? Just because he killed someone does not justify us killing him. That makes us no better than him at all. Put him in jail for the rest of his life, that's more of a punishment as he will have to live with knowing what he did every single day for the rest of his entire life.

thank you. i couldnt agree more

honeychile · #6 09-01-2003, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by bethany1982
To me, the issue here is not abortion. The issue is murder. Let him pay the price. However, in my opinion, murdering an abortion Dr. is no worse than murdering any other person.

I completely agree with your post, Bethany.

Imthachamp · #7 09-01-2003, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by smiley21
Imthachump..oh i mean champ- dont act like babies have a higher value than adults. babies are precious, but no matter how you look at it, what paul did was murder. i am not God's personal spokesperson, but i KNOW that He wouldnt condone murder. that commandment i mentioned earlier doesnt say 'thou shalt not kill...unless you are saving the life of a child.' ( fyi: i think self defense is another story)

paul did not help the situation. women who want an abortion will just go to someone else. so who is paul saving here?

i think women who want abortions should be given the death penalty too.

FREE PAUL HILL

KillarneyRose · #8 09-01-2003, 04:45 PM

I would rather see Paul Hill rotting away in a prison cell for the rest of his life; lest his being executed makes him some sort of "martyr".

texas*princess · #9 09-01-2003, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by damasa
I'm going to try to get us to talk about something besides Kate Spade and that "oh so cool T.V. show that you watched yesterday."

Paul Hill, a Presbyterian minister who gunned down an abortion doctor and his bodyguard is scheduled to be executed on Septermber 3rd. (The first scheduled execution for anti-abortion related violence.)

If you don't know anything about this story, you can check some of it out here: Paul Hill

Personally, I don't think his actions were justified killings, even in the "name of the Bible." What are your feelings?

Like others who have already posted, I don't feel the issue here is abortions or whether or not he was an abortion doctor. It was the fact that he murdered living people.

This might be going out on a limb, but so what if his faith believes that abortion is wrong (as pertaining to the murders)? If people are on Mr. Hills side because their faith believes it is wrong and/or evil to have or perform an abortion, and they believe Mr. Hill's actions were "justified" by the Bible, than that would be like saying all those people who are terrorists and kill other races/cultures of people is ok since that is part of their beliefs.

damasa · #10 09-01-2003, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by texas*princess

This might be going out on a limb, but so what if his faith believes that abortion is wrong (as pertaining to the murders)? If people are on Mr. Hills side because their faith believes it is wrong and/or evil to have or perform an abortion, and they believe Mr. Hill's actions were "justified" by the Bible, than that would be like saying all those people who are terrorists and kill other races/cultures of people is ok since that is part of their beliefs.

I was waiting for someone to bring this exact point up.

honeychile · #11 09-01-2003, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by KillarneyRose
I would rather see Paul Hill rotting away in a prison cell for the rest of his life; lest his being executed makes him some sort of "martyr".

That's the one point that bothers me - that some might consider him to be a martyr.

smiley21 · #12 09-01-2003, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Imthachamp
why? i am stating my opinion.

it may be an opinion, but you are not in the position of these women. abortion is legal. while we may disagree, these women have the right to do what they feel. most of these women who chose abortions are scared and dont know what to do. to say that they deserve the death penalty is cruel cause these pregnacies could be the result of rape, incest, etc.

Imthachamp · #13 09-01-2003, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by smiley21
it may be an opinion, but you are not in the position of these women. abortion is legal. while we may disagree, these women have the right to do what they feel. most of these women who chose abortions are scared and dont know what to do. to say that they deserve the death penalty is cruel cause these pregnacies could be the result of rape, incest, etc.

well...that's your opinion man.

bethany1982 · #14 09-01-2003, 05:01 PM

Why does this thread have to turn into an abortion slugfest? The issue is murder...

Imthachamp · #15 09-01-2003, 05:02 PM

abortion is murder