diversity

[DoggyStyle82]

Originally posted by the411
So you think a non-black member who perhaps didn't go through a rigorous pledge process--but is handlin' his business when it comes to service--would be just as respected as the non-black member who went thru hell and high water, but perhaps isn't active in the community (as so many greeks are after pledging), save for being the White/Latino who can step his a$$ off?

I'm just asking...

You assume way too much. I could care less about stepping. A good Bruh is a good Bruh. That is all anyone has to show himself as. If you were "made", all the better. If you are all service, that is cool as well.

[the411]

My Dear Sweet Doggy, I'm only asking, not assuming-- just trying to get a feel for the general attitude on the issue. It has been my experience that more weight is put on the pledge process, as non-black members tend to face more challenges while pledging a black org.

As I speak from my own experiences and vantage point, I sought feedback from you (the bros) to get some greater understanding. Your responses are both appropriate and ideal, but I still wonder if your feelings are (honestly) shared by most Omegas, particularly younger members. For instance, what is generally the first question(s) that is asked (or thought to be asked) when you see a non-black member wearing your letters? In my greek experiences it's been something like: "Did he/she really pledge?" rather than "Is he/she passionate about and committed to service to our comminity?" Again, just questions...

Should I stop wondering and conclude your previous declarations to represent the thoughts of the majority? You know me...

[DoggyStyle82]

Originally posted by the411
My Dear Sweet Doggy, I'm only asking, not assuming-- just trying to get a feel for the general attitude on the issue. It has been my experience that more weight is put on the pledge process, as non-black members tend to face more challenges while pledging a black org.

As I speak from my own experiences and vantage point, I sought feedback from you (the bros) to get some greater understanding. Your responses are both appropriate and ideal, but I still wonder if your feelings are (honestly) shared by most Omegas, particularly younger members. For instance, what is generally the first question(s) that is asked (or thought to be asked) when you see a non-black member wearing your letters? In my greek experiences it's been something like: "Did he/she really pledge?" rather than "Is he/she passionate about and committed to service to our comminity?" Again, just questions...

Should I stop wondering and conclude your previous declarations to represent the thoughts of the majority? You know me...

When you are younger or fresh off the sands, all that you care about is the "process". Especially of a non-black member because skating is an affont in and of itself, it would be even worse if a non-"us" was admitted easily. As you get older in Greekdom and away from your insulated yard and roadtrips, you realize that Greekdom is larger than your "process". As your worldview expands through maturity and employment, how you saw things as a neo or prophyte are different 10 yrs in.

So how I see things as an older member are based on my position in life and distance from those of a neophyte world. Doesn't make my viewpoint right and theirs wrong. Its different based on fraternal lifestyle and life experience.

So to answer your question directly... 10 yrs in, its about service, fresh off the sands "how did you pledge?"

[the411]

That makes a lot of sense to me. You're absolutely right about the "fresh-off-the-sands" greeks! I may have actually been one of those myself back in the day. And as I have gotten older, I see things a whole lot different than I did before and immediately after pledging.

Thanks, Doggy.