Sen. Strom Thurmond

[PiKA2001]

Originally posted by Bamboozled
And I say goodbye to bad rubbish.

I was waiting for this to pop up on Thurmond. It's true that he might be looked at as being racist for some of the remarks he made in the past, but over the course of his lifespan he more than made up for the mistakes he made in the past. I think now in his death it would be kind of pointless to hold any grudges against the man.

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by Bamboozled
Oh, yeah? Well, try this one:

“And I want to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that there’s not enough troops in the Army to force the Southern people to break down segregation and admit the nigger race into our theaters, into our swimming pools, into our homes and into our churches.”

Spoken by yours truly, Good ol' Strom. Forgive me if I'm not all broken up over here.

The Senator was an obvious racist when he began his career.

It seem equally obvious the he changed dramatically over the years, including being the first Southern Senator to employ a black person on his staff.

The "bad rubbish" comment was uncalled for under the circumstances.

[Bamboozled]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
The "bad rubbish" comment was uncalled for under the circumstances.

You're entitled to your opinion, as am I. If I see Strom as being bad rubbish, than that is what I stand by. You are in no position to determine what is and what is not called for.

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by Bamboozled
You're entitled to your opinion, as am I.

Fine.

In my opinion, the "bad rubbish" comment was uncalled for under the circumstances.

[Bamboozled]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
In my opinion, the "bad rubbish" comment was uncalled for under the circumstances.

Yeah, and so was the "nigger" comment under any circumstance.

[Cloud9]

Why is it that when some one dies, suddenly all their wrongful actions, however terrible, must suddenly be overlooked? Dead or alive, the man was awful, in my opinion. I'm not going to suddenly revere him just because he no longer draws breath.

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by Cloud9
Why is it that when some one dies, suddenly all their wrongful actions, however terrible, must suddenly be overlooked?

Agreed. If she had said something similar three days ago, nobody would have batted an eyelash. I honestly don't think Strom Thurmond cares anymore that he's dead than he would have when he was living, so why should it suddenly matter now that he's dead?

[swissmiss04]

May it be said again: Do not speak ill of the dead. I'm sure none of us are without flaws and personally I wouldn't want mine dredged back up after my death when I can't defend myself. Show some respect or keep quiet. It's better for us to wonder if you're an idiot than for you to post some crap and leave us no doubt.

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by Bamboozled
Yeah, and so was the "nigger" comment under any circumstance.

For the record, you have NEVER seen me use that term.

A number of people aren't overlooking Thurman's record of racism, just reacting to the changes he made over the course of his life and career.

"To err is human, to forgive, devine."

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by swissmiss04
May it be said again: Do not speak ill of the dead. I'm sure none of us are without flaws and personally I wouldn't want mine dredged back up after my death when I can't defend myself. Show some respect or keep quiet. It's better for us to wonder if you're an idiot than for you to post some crap and leave us no doubt.

Oh come on now. Like I said, if she had posted something bad about Strom three days ago nobody would have cared. And it has nothing to do with him "not being able to defend himself now" because it's not like he sat around reading the GC message boards before he died.

The guy did some terrible isht which, in my opinion, can't be "erased" by the fact that he later tried to make up for it. That doesn't excuse the fact that it happened in the first place. Do I think that he's a horrible person? No. But do I think that the fact that he died means that we should all bow down and praise him? Again, no.

[Bamboozled]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
For the record, you have NEVER seen me use that term.

A number of people aren't overlooking Thurman's record of racism, just reacting to the changes he made over the course of his life and career.

"To err is human, to forgive, devine."

I certainly wasn't suggesting that you used the term. I was referring to Strom's quote.

And as far as the last comment goes.... to err is to blunder, to make a mistake. I don't consider supporting a system that oppresses of an entire race of people an err. And on the whole forgiveness thing... I hope he sought it before he died.

[Bamboozled]

And who deleted my "bad rubbish" comment? Oh, I see.... people can profess their love for this blatant racist, but I can't voice my views. What kind of isht is that? But, I am LMAO that the "nigger" comment stayed. Y'all are too much for me.

[PM_Mama00]

It's called not dealing with racist people like you.

[RedefinedDiva]

Bamboozled and Sugar and Spice made some good comments. No one is speaking "ill" of the dead. The facts are simply being stated. As Sugar and Spice stated, if Bamboozled would have made her comments two or three days ago, would there be all this? No one is "dredging up" his wrongs. His "wrongs" were the basis of most of his life and career!

Some have stated that he was a great man that did great things in his career for the country and his state. That is ONLY a matter of opinion. Conversely, it is the opinion of some of us to think that someone who would CONTINOUSLY do any and everything in their power to strike down equal rights in our country is ANYTHING but great. Ok, so he hired a Black person to work for him. AND??? After all that he had done to oppress minorities, that's the VERY LEAST that he could do.

[PM_Mama00]

Yay! ANOTHER THREAD turned into a race issue.